You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.

LJ, that was actually funny.

Michael: Tht mght mk Dn’s psts mch mr ndrstndble.

Uh, oh, you’re consonated, dude. You need a vowel movement…..

Don, you’re reaching or you don’t have the background to understand what you’re reading that’s provoking these not-particularly-thought-provoking pronouncements on the law. Here’s the rundown:

1. Tattoos are classified in some jurisdictions as minor medical procedures. That means they’re right there with getting your ears, nose, and tongue pierced. It can also mean they’re equivalent to having your labia and nipples pierced. It could mean they’re equivalent to receiving botox injections or going to a tanning salon. It might mean that tattoo parlors are covered by the same regulatory distinctions that massage therapists and physical therapists, and even psychologists are under.

That doesn’t mean there is some massive regulatory legal distinction about tattoos, it’s simply that there are legal hoops to leap through in some places before you’re allowed to give tattoos to the public. It certainly doesn’t mean that there are legal proscriptions about giving and receiving tattoos that don’t exist in some places for the other things that are often covered by the same blanket regulatory issues.

2. You say you can sue. Fine, you can sue for anything. It’s plain that you absolutely can sue for any perceived harm that you dream up. Jack Thompson sues about video games, and you could be the Jack Thompson of tattoos. Note though that Jack Thompson has never won anything more than the narrowest of legal victories or stays in his career as an anti-video game crusader, and you’re unlikely to receive any better treatment in the courts.

That is, Jack Thompson has a certain celebrity and political connections that has prevented him so far from disbarment and he’s had his bar license for decades. You obviously don’t possess a bar license, and you’d be unlikely to keep one for more than a week if you became unhinged and start laying out lawsuits like you claim to be able to.

3. Your understanding of the distinctions between the laws considering minors is BAD. Your understanding of the way Child Protective Services works is BAD.

4. Whatever your understanding of CPS and incompetency issues regarding minors is, your current post about trademark and copyright infringement shows an even worse understanding. One, the tattoo artists themselves create the artwork so any legal action would be directed at the tattoo artists and not the receptor of the art. Two, the majority of tattoo artists I know work from purchased or created in-house sheets of artwork in the first place so it’s a non-issue anyways. Three, even if you successful made a case of infringement for the guy parking the Best Buy logo on his forehead with a tattoo the very regulatory distinctions re: medical procedures you use to cite for other points in your ranting usually provide a protective blanket within the law.

Best Buy might argue enrichment and infringement, but Joe Schmoe probably isn’t going to make a good case for dilution, and you can’t compel people to undergo cosmetic surgery as a compensation for a copyright infringement case. If you had a birth mark that looked like the Internet Explorer E, do you think it would be a good idea if we allowed Bill Gates to sue you to remove your birthmark?

Don, stop being dumb.

I’m a huge Dorothy Parker fan. Thanks for the smile.

And thank you, KPG, for this:

Uh, oh, you’re consonated, dude. You need a vowel movement…..

Meanwhile, Don said something that caught my eye:

You can not force a person to get tattoted.

Then what the hell are you bitching about?

KPG, I hadn’t heard that one ... and just cos I think you can’t have too much of a good thing, here are a few I found a coupla years ago.

Someone at the Algonquin Club suggested that a particular lady was her own worst enemy.
Dorothy Parker snapped back: Not while I’m alive!
Others say she was misquoted.

I’d rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

It serves me right for keeping all my eggs in one bastard.

The trans-Atlantic crossing was so rough the only thing I could keep on my stomach was the first mate.

(To an actor who kept talking of his ‘schedule’ using the British pronunciation)
If you don’t mind my saying so, I think you’re full of skit.

(When a friend asked how he could get rid of his cat)
Have you tried curiosity?

(Manager of hotel where she was staying)
Do you have a gentleman in your room? Just a minute and I’ll ask him.

Hopkins: Don’t you think she ought to wear a brassier in this scene.
Dorothy: God no! You’ve got to have something in the show that moves.

All I need is enough room to lay a hat and a few friends.

Do me a favour. When you get home throw you mother a bone.

and my favourite:
I like to have a martini -
two at the very most -
at three I’m under the table,
at four, I’m under the host! (Dorothy Parker)

I was watching an old clip of Groucho on You Bet Your Life awhile back. He was interviewing a contestant, a woman who said she had 20 children. Groucho gives her a disbelieving stare and she says “What can I say, I love my husband.“

Groucho replies “I Love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile.“

tdntmttr:

“ tk xcptn t yr s f th wrd ‘clt’ n ths cs. Thr r mny tttsts nd ppl wh cllct ttts tht hv dffrng pnns rgrdng crtn ttts.”

Dn:
Th nn clt hs t lst tw mnngs:
Mnng #1: dhrnts f n xclsv systm f rlgs blfs nd prctcs
Mnng #2: n ntrst fllwd wth xggrtd zl
Synnyms: fd, crz, frr, rg

Dctnry dfntns f “clt”
Th Mrrm-Wbstr nln dctnry lsts fv dffrnt mnngs f th wrd “clt” 32.
1. Frml rlgs vnrtn
2. systm f rlgs blfs nd rtl; ls: ts bdy f dhrnts;
3. rlgn rgrdd s nrthdx r sprs; ls: ts bdy f dhrnts;
4. systm fr th cr f dss bsd n dgm st frth by ts prmlgtr;
5. Grt dvtn t prsn, d, bjct, mvmnt, r wrk (s flm r bk).

“n cmmn sg, “clt” hs ngtv cnnttn, nd s gnrlly ppld t grp by ts ppnnts, fr vrty f rsns. ndrstndbly, mst, f nt ll, grps tht r clld “clts” dny ths lbl.”

Dnl tht y r mmbr f th clt “ttt dhrnc” wld b xpctd. t s nt s mch tht y hv gd r bd ttt, gd nd bd bng sbjctv, mr tht y hv ttt n rdr t b mmbr nd hv ccptnc. spps y cld sy r ttt cltst “n sprt”, nd n ttt ndd, s y wld b n th tr frngs f th clt, bt f y wnt rs n cltc stndng, thn gt yr ntr bdy dyd n nk.

Th rvrs s ls tr y cld cll m mmbr f n “nt-ttt clt”, my mmbrshp wld b hv n ttts. Th dffrnc bng ’m nt n dnl f t, f y wnt t chrg m wth tht lbl g fr t.

Hwvr, sd th wrd “clt” prprly. f y wnt t gt t f yr clt, th frst thng y hv t d s stp dnyng tht y r n n. Sng thr s nthr scl nr ny prsnl gd tht cn cm frm gttng pg rt n prsn’s bdy, wll mntn my pstn.

Dn

Don:  Whatever dude—*plonk*

I find dealing with Don far too diffiCULT.   

I thought of trying to extract another laugh from the hortiCULTure joke but didn’t think it’d work - I’d hate to think I was CULTureless.
Stop it, John. 

Somebody needs to teabag Don.

n rspns t MstrMk:

MstrMk wrt:

“2. Y sy y cn s. Fn, y cn s fr nythng. t’s pln tht y bsltly cn s fr ny prcvd hrm tht y drm p. Jck Thmpsn ss bt vd gms, nd y cld b th Jck Thmpsn f ttts. Nt thgh tht Jck Thmpsn hs nvr wn nythng mr thn th nrrwst f lgl vctrs r stys n hs crr s n nt-vd gm crsdr, nd y’r nlkly t rcv ny bttr trtmnt n th crts.”

nvr sd y cn s nyn fr nythng, nd y cn NT. (rfrnc: RCP 1, pg 2, 2005, lbld ndr “Scp r Scp f ctn”). n cmmn pnt, prsn hs t shw dmgs, thr/r physcl r mtnl dmgs tht r “rl”. Thr r stndrds t mtnl dmgs tht ft lgl dfntn. Hwvr, y nd t brdn yr prspctv. f s prnt, r grdn, nd ttt clt s bng vrly nflntl t my prncpl, cn brng lgl ctn ndr prntl ntrfrnc, r cvl rghts ndr nvsn f prvcy; prhps vn mr.

S, wtch yr bck t ll tms.

MstrMk wrt:

3. Yr ndrstndng f th dstnctns btwn th lws cnsdrng mnrs s BD.
Yr ndrstndng f th wy Chld Prtctv Srvcs wrks s BD.

Dn:

G t

Stttry thrty: RS 418.005
Stts. mplmntd: RS 418.005

tht ld t

BHVR NTRVNTN PLN (RS rgs)

413-020-0230 (1):

“Fr chldrn wh hv dmnstrtd srs thrt t thmslvs, thrs r prprty, bhvr ntrvntn pln shll b dvlpd by th
plnnng tm sng th CF 1009.

Ths pln shll ddrss th cr/trtmnt nds f
th chld. Th srvc wrkr, prmry cr gvr nd thr mmbrs f th plnnng
tm wll dvlp th pln. Th sprvsr fr th wrkr mst sgn ff n th pln. t
mnmm, ths pln shll b rvwd t sx mnth ntrvls.

Fr ths chldrn,
bhvr ntrvntn pln shll ddrss ctn t b tkn n th prt f th prvdr
ncldng physcl rstrnt, shld th plnnd ntrvntns fl t prvnt nsf
bhvr.”

n shrt, ny ctn by chld, nstgtd by prntl nflnc r thr, tht my cs srs thrt t thmslvs, thrs, r prprty th chld wll rvrt t th rgnl stt jrsdctn fr ntrvntn.

n rgn (s ll thr stts) th chld cms frst nd frmst, nd vr rds ny prntl rghts.

Chld bs hs dfntn, tht s by “th prpndrnc f th vdnc”. n shrt, f stt hm nspctr “fr ny rsn” n thr pnn, nd r stff, dtrmn chld s bng bsd r ndr dvt nflnc “MST”, st fmly pln t rmv th ngtvty, r rmv th chld frm tht hm.

Ths mst crtnly wld ncld, nrstrnd tttng by th prnts (nd thr bdy dsfgrng), f mst ny knd, nd NT lmtd t gng ctvty. Mst cmmnly tttng s sgn f thr crmnl ctvty, r smply, nt ccptbl t rs chld n tht nflnc, dpndng n svrty, nd CPS cn nd ds ntrvn n fmly lf.

Ths s nt vn strt f CPS, ntnl r stt. n rgn thr r vr 6,000 chldn n stt cstdy nt t mntn ll th thr lgl ctns tkn by th stt dly, by CPS, gnst prnts.

n shrt, f CPS wnts t mk cs gnst prnt, mst ny prn r grdn, thy cn.

hp ths hlps y t MstrMk, t s plsr tlkng t y.

Dn

I think I’m going to refer to Don as Slappy from now on.

Just ‘cause…..

Can anybody work out where the fuck Don is going?  He started off by ranting at tattoos- fine you hate em.  What exactly are you trying to prove.  So it’s illegal to tattoo a kid. Will he be arguing sex is illegal because you can’t do it to an 8 year old.

This started as an arguement by him against tattoos- but the incompetent pillock tried all sorts of wierd and wonderful arguements against tattoos. 

Don, we get it. You can’t tattoo a kid, you can’t tattoo against someones will (extremists like Nazis excepted).

WITHOUT GOING OFF AT A TANGENT- apart from your personal taste, why shouldn’t some one of majority get a tattoo that would not cause offense/be illegal if it was on a T-shirt or bill board. No wierd argumenmts now like “because they might say kill all niggers”- As I said- legal for a T-shirt.

And for fucks sake learn to do this

It’s notdifficult, and you canalways use the preview button before posting tyo check layout etc

...so you don’t make stupid mistakes like forgetting the spaces…

“Most commonly tattooing is sign of other criminal activity, or simply, not acceptable to raise a child in that influence, depending on severity, and CPS can and does intervene in family life.“

Citation please. Someone mentioned that their 71 year old grandmother had tattoos. My great uncle and grandfather had tattoos. Soccer moms have tattoos, and soldiers have tattoos. Where is the evidence you’re claiming for the commonality of criminal activity in tattooing? For the Maori tattooing has religious and cultural implications: Are you claiming that Maoris are all criminals? You’re now asserting that not only are tattoos some flavor of assault, but they also appear naturally with criminal activities or else somehow provoke criminal activity.

Don, stop being stupid.

KPG: Somebody needs to teabag Don.

Well don’t look at me…

MstrMk:

“Cttn pls.”

Dn:

Lk bv, bt y dn’t rd. jst gv y th cttn, nd th qt, nd th svrty f tttng s n th n th pnn f th rgn DHS stt hm nspctr, cmmnly clld CPS ntn wd.

N DDTN, mk N mstk, chld tht slcs nd dcs thmslvs wth rzrs, dmpng n nk, nd ss th “ttt clt lgc”, mr thn lkly wll sffr th hvy hnd f CPS. bvsly, th prnt s t f cntrl f th chld nd CPS wll tk cntrl f th chld, by lw nd sttt.

Th stndrd s “n th pnn” f th stt hm nspctr nd/r stff.

n ddtn, hr r yr “mndtry” rgn (nd ntnl) chld bs rprtrs. Bt ny n cn fl chld bs cmplnt wth CPS nd b hld hrmlss nd scrt ccrdng t lw.

ccrdng t rgn Rvsd Sttt 419B.010,

“ny pblc r prvt ffcl hvng rsnbl cs t blv tht ny chld wth whm th ffcl cms n cntct hs sffrd bs, r tht ny prsn wth whm th ffcl cms n cntct hs bsd chld shll mmdtly rprt r cs rprt t b md . . .”

Ths “pblc r prvt ffcls” ncld:

• Physcn, ncldng ny ntrn r rsdnt
• Dntst
• Schl mply
• Lcnsd prctcl nrs r rgstrd nrs
• mply f th Dprtmnt f Hmn Srvcs, Stt Cmmssn n Chldrn nd Fmls, Chld Cr Dvsn f th mplymnt Dprtmnt, th rgn Yth thrty, cnty hlth dprtmnt, cmmnty mntl hlth nd dvlpmntl dsblts prgrm, cnty jvnl dprtmnt, lcnsd chld-crng gncy r n lchl nd drg trtmnt prgrm
• Pc ffcr
• Psychlgst
• Mmbr f th clrgy
• Lcnsd clncl scl wrkr
• ptmtrst
• Chrprctr
• Crtfd prvdr f fstr cr, r n mply thrf
• ttrny
• Ntrpthc physcn
• Lcnsd prfssnl cnslr
• Lcnsd mrrg nd fmly thrpst
• Frfghtr r mrgncy mdcl tchncn
• crt ppntd spcl dvct, s dfnd n RS 419.004

• chldcr prvdr rgstrd r crtfd ndr RS 657.030 nd 657.250 t 657.450

Dn

Dn t drv th pnt hm:

DHS Chld Wlfr Plcy -B.1 (* tht s stt rgltns tht r th sm s lw, nd prcdrs t fllw…Dn)

(31) “Sbstntl hrm” mns mmblzng mprmnt, lf thrtnng dmg, r
sgnfcnt r ct njry t chld’s physcl, sxl, psychlgcl, r mntl
dvlpmnt r fnctnng.

Ths s nly smll lstng…Dn

Mntl njry nclds:

• Rjctng, bndnng r xtnsv rdclng f chld.

• Trrrzng chld by thrtnng xtrm pnshmnt gnst hm r hs pts r pssssns.

• gnrng chld vr tm by rfsng t tlk t r shw ntrst n hr dly ctvts. Ths mst b s xtrm thr s n trdtnl prnt-chld rltnshp btwn th tw.

• sltng chld by tchng hm t vd scl cntct bynd th prnt-chld rltnshp.

• Crrptng chld by tchng npprprt bhvr n rs sch s ggrssn, sxlty r sbstnc bs.

• xpsng chld t vlnc.

Sng y d nt lk my lng pst, lk t th bv crtr, nd thy r s pn s brn dr fr CPS hm nspctn gnt t mk ny dtrmntn, nd tk lgl ctn, bt chld n prntl cr, tht wld ncld, nd nt lmtd t, mssv bdy dsfgrng, nd tttng.

My pnt s md nd ctd, mny tms vr, y dn’t wnt t rd t, fn, b gnrnt.

Dn

Wow. Disemvoweling Don was very satisfying indeed. Comments make about the same amount of sense as they did before as well. Interesting.

MstrMk

Th mmdt tpc ws CPS tht hs mssv jrsdctn, bt nly vr chldrn frm brth t g 18, pnshng prnts by th stt jrsdctn nd rmvl f thr chldrn, nd nw y wnt t thrw n yr grt nt nd thrd dlt csn rmvd?

Tht s jst slly.

Fr dlts thr r thr mns t rglt tttng, nd thr bdy mtltns, f wht cvrd, nd nt lmtd t, my prsnl thrty f cvl ctn .. NT t b nflncd r xpsd t thr ppl’s gd-wfl ttts.

Thr s ls bdy f lws clld “scl crrptns”, nd znng rdnncs, tht cnfns nd lmts dvt bhvr nd prsns tht fll nt th gry r f hw prsn cn mtlt thmslvs, nd t wht xtnt f scl dsplys f tht dvnc.

Cs n pnt n rgn, mplyrs cn dmnd ttts t b cvrd, th rmvl f bdy jwlry f ll knds, dmnd cds f drss nd bdy lngg, nd cn “rfs t hr” prsn wth slf-nflctd bdy mtltns.

Znng f bsnss cn mst crtnly crtl nd lmt ttt pg rt stds t th lst nflntl mpct n scty, s bn dn wth prn shps.

scty wtht stndrds, s nt mch f scty t ll, nd s dstnd t fl s hstry hs clrly shwn.

Y s n dlt, y wnt t jmp n vt f rd nk, dy yrslf rd wht nd bl; hv jst s mch rght, nd lgl thrty, t prvnt tht stpdty frm hppnng wthn my stt, cnty, cty, NCLDNG, CCR’s n rl stt.

Dn

And the mad disemvoweler strikes again!

Hey Slappy, I think I’m going to get a tattoo just to piss you off. Should I just email you pics or would you prefer me to show up in person.

Sadie, I’ll get a tatoo that says “tab B” if you get one that says “slot A” 

Tut tut, KPG. No fair goading the disemvoweled.

I think it’s time I posted a tattoo picture that I’m sure will just piss Don right off. It’s the amazing Pac Man Ass Tattoo: