Atheist quote on Starbucks cup offends Catholic woman.

Posted by Les on Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 08:26 PM. Read 10342 times. Tags: , , ,
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It must have been a really slow news day Springboro, Ohio cause I can’t think of any other reason why they’d waste time on a story about a Starbucks addicted Catholic woman named Michelle Incanno who’s panties are all in a twist over an atheist quotation on a cup she got with her coffee. So what was the horrible affront to her God that she was unfairly confronted with?

Printed on the cup was: “Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure.”

It is attributed to Bill Schell, a Starbucks customer from London, Ontario, and was included on the cup as part of an effort by the company to collect different viewpoints and spur discussion.

Holy shit! He’s advocating for a semblance of personal responsibility over simply praying to a God that may or may not exist! Self reliance is UNAMERICAN!

“As someone who loves God, I was so offended by that. I don’t think there needs to be religious dialogue on it. I just want coffee,” said Incanno, a married mother of three who is Catholic.

Welcome to my world Mrs. Michelle Incanno. It’d be really nice if I could make it through the day without having umpteen million Christian messages shoved in my face whether it’s those stupid billboards that pretend to be messages from God or the various True Believers who show up at my door to ask if I know where I’m going once I die or the various businesses that feel the need to promote Christianity with their services. If I ran off and bitched at a journalist every time I was confronted by something like that they’d have to print a special newspaper just for my complaints.

Rather than spend my time sitting around being offended, though, I just developed a thick enough skin that I can brush it off for the most part and I’d suggest you do the same.

She wasn’t satisfied with a company disclaimer saying the quote is the author’s opinion, not necessarily that of Starbucks. It invites customers to respond at http://www.starbucks.com/wayiseeit.

Starbucks spokeswoman Sanja Gould said the collection of thoughts and opinions is a “way to promote open, respectful conversation among a wide variety of individuals. “

But Incanno said her Starbucks days are over.

“I wouldn’t feel right going back,” she said.

Or you can swear off your favorite coffee shop if you prefer, but I don’t have that luxury considering how prevalent Christian nonsense is in America. I’m sure Starbucks won’t be hurting over the loss of one overly uptight Catholic. 

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timmeh United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 07:54 AM

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Dara, that’s your choice I suppose, but it seems kinda stupid to me to stop patronizing an establishment over a single quote on a coffee cup you didn’t like.


Don’t forget that those are the views of a patron not the company.
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swordsbane United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 08:35 AM

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This highlights the problems I see with having bible stuff in government buildings.  My first reaction is to say “I don’t care” after all, unless they start making religion a test to keep your citizenship or your right to vote, I don’t care what some dumb guy has in his office or on the side of the capital.  I do want to know who put them there so I can vote against them in the next election.

Then I thought about all the times someone had the guts to put an unconditionally athiest message somewhere and how everytime that happens, they are harrassed and even attacked sometimes until they take it down, and of course you never see an athiest message in a courtroom.  The argument for keeping bible messages is “It’s their opinion” or “It’s a good message.  It doesn’t matter where it comes from” but that doesn’t apply to the atheist messages, and I agree.  That should work both ways, but it doesn’t.

So now, I think - “When they can let it slide when they see an athiest message, I’ll let it slide when I see a bible message.” When I see things like this; people freaking out when they get shown a message on a coffee cup that isn’t even the opinion of those who presented it, I want to slap them and shout “Then don’t read your coffee!  Just drink it.”

It’s a simple double standard.  Everyone is supposed to shrug their shoulders and move on when they are ambushed by a bible verse in or on something, but we’re supposed to get upset and boycott a company when they have the temerity to show the other side.  How many specifically religious messages do they have for those coffee cups?  Does anyone know?  Did any of the complainers even try to find out?

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timmeh United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 08:58 AM

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I doubt they did any research at all, Hell you have been around long enough to know they only have faith to fall back on. Most people are happy to not think and just go about their lives.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 09:52 AM

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He poured his coffee out and made his wife pour hers out.

Am I the only one who feels sorry for the wife?

I’m relieved, though, that there’s one bunch of in-duh-viduals not “open, respectful conversation among a wide variety of individuals” that I won’t encounter during my rare visits to Starbucks. Good riddance.

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decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 10:38 AM

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I do feel sorry for the wife - she just got a hot cup of coffee and her husband goes off on a thing about what’s printed on the cup.

Which googles as follows:

Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside us for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure. - Bill Scheel

So offensive!  Mmmm, coffee…

decrepitoldfool United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 10:55 AM

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What I meant is, #247 wasn’t code, it was just the number of the quote

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 11:40 AM

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So what does #247 actually say?

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Webs United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 11:55 AM

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DOF just quoted it above.

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elwedriddsche United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 12:02 PM

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Never mind, senior moment.

My, what a devastating attack against religion.

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Last_Hussar Great Britain (UK) Posted on 06/14/2007 at 05:02 PM

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Swordsbane- get a plaque that says

I don’t need a god to tell me murder is wrong.

See what the religeous guy with his 10 commandments makes of that!

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Webs United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 05:52 PM

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I thinks that’s an excellent point to make because if we need someone to tell us murder is wrong, than atheists would tend to commit more crimes.  And it would make me feel pretty helpless to know I can’t think for myself.

On the flip side if, as LJ would say, invisible sky chappies (I just like the way that sounds for some reason) are controlling us and telling us what we can and cannot do, then if I commit murder under the name of God then I must be justified in my action.

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timmeh United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 07:29 PM

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It makes you wonder why the prison populations is made up of far less atheists than the general population is. In the U.S. about 13% is nonreligious (that includes agnostics) while in prison this number drops to about .5%.

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Sadie Jane United States Posted on 06/14/2007 at 07:37 PM

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I don’t think anyone affiliated with Starbucks has cause to mourn the loss of Ms. Davis’ patronage.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 06/14/2007 at 11:29 PM

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In the U.S. about 13% is nonreligious (that includes agnostics) while in prison this number drops to about .5%.

Do I think I’m so smart because I’m an Atheist?
No, I’m an Atheist cos I’m so smart.

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LuckyJohn19 Australia Posted on 06/15/2007 at 12:01 AM

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(I just like the way that sounds for some reason)

Thanks, so do I.
Whenever I say it in my head I do so with an accent from Michael Crawford as Frank Spencer in Some Mothers do have Them as he minces about like John Inman/Mr. Wilberforce Clayborne Humphries in Are you being Served.

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zilch Austria Posted on 06/15/2007 at 09:54 AM

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Speaking of offence- check this out.  I found it rather funny, but mileage may differ. (found at “Atheism Sucks! sucks)

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Dorbel Tweeter United States Posted on 08/18/2007 at 01:57 AM

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To: 

Dear Editor,

Well, first off, let me say that I’m an idiot just like everybody else here on this website, and I gotta say, I love, love, love you, and I couldn’t agree more about them anti-God Starbucks cups and all.

I mean, they must all be a bunch of Ho-ly-Mo-ly-Sexuals (Queers), don’t cha think?
They may be smart, okay, but they ain’t goin to Heaven with you and me. Hah!

If God wanted people to be so smart, why did he invent the Pope and Jerry Falwell?  Why did he make G.W. Bush become our President?  So there, Mr. Smarty Pants!  We’ll be waving at you down there in the Pits of Hellfire.  Hah!

I mean, my IQ is about 82 or 83 (depending on how much Starbinky’s coffee I drank that day—joke, ha-ha), and I am PROUD OF IT!!!

STAND UP AND SHOW YOUR PRIDE, FELLOW IDIOTS!!!  DO NOT BE ASHAMED TO LOOOOOVE GOD, have a LOT OF BABIES, and drive, drive, drive that big mother honker SUV right down their pointy little “Global Warming” genius heads.  Hoo-hah!

And the same goes for them High In-Fidelities over in IraQ(ueer) and IranY (joke—get it?).  They gonna be down there with all the little
Starbuckys faggots and gonna be cuttin their pointy little heads right off.  Hah! 

I mean, what kind of country would put a “Q” in their name, anyway?

Speaking of which, did you ever notice the striking parallels between inFidels and Fidel Castro?  I’d say it’s not just a coincidence, but more likely that his mother planned it that way.  What do you think?

I’ll bet a lot of people never even noticed.  This could be worked up into a nice article for the website!

Keep up the GOD work, WND!!
Go! Go! Go! Team!
Your biggest fan forever,

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