If an atheist quote on a Starbucks cup is going to offend you then maybe you should stay at home in bed under the blankets!

Yes, I know I am stating the obvious but holy crap. If you are that sensitive and a quote can upset you then how do you live in this world?!? All kinds of crap happen day in and day out that should upset people and it doesn’t.

Hopefully this woman’s friends and family don’t let her know about the war in Iraq. I’d imagine she’d die if she heard about all the death and destruction taking place to the Iraq as well as American people there.

But if she is avoiding her own responsibility in her own life then this would be waaaaaaaay out of her grasp.

Apparently priests can advocate for personal responsibility over prayer, so why should that bother her so much?

I’m sure Starbucks won’t be hurting over the loss of one overly uptight Catholic. 

Starbucks’ attitude shows unusual courage in the epicentre of world xianity.

If it’s not the gays, it’s the atheists. We get it, you can howl about anything you want and if we object it’s discrimination, but if it offends you, then it’s wrong and has no place in public.

Seems odd that Starbucks would put messages on coffee cups from a product liability standpoint. You know an, “I was reading my daily affirmation and my latte spilled in my crotch, mental duress, loss of sleep, punitive damages”, scenario.
Christians, particularly of the Evangelical ilk, are of the only faith I know of that feel that it is their duty to proselytize. So, maybe Ms, Incanno is upset that someone is invading their well worn turf.
Atheists that I know keep pretty quiet about it and I do think they feel a sense of discrimination. I have a friend in Texas who says Atheism is the Rodney Dangerfield of philosophy.
So, good for mister Schell for having the motivation to submit his thoughts to the Starbucks coffee cup aphorism committee and God bless Ms. Incanno because, it’s always entertaining to watch a Christian go into hysteria when someone has a different viewpoint than their own.

She needs to take that anger and rage and aim it at Father Peter’s diseased mentality and interest in little Peter’s, little peter.

it’s always entertaining to watch a Christian go into hysteria when someone has a different viewpoint than their own.

indeedy doody- They’re not all like that, but the apoplectic ones are fun.

they’d have to print a special newspaper just for my complaints

You mean this is just a normal blog?

We have one of those ‘bible quoters’ turn up in the market square.  I’m just waiting for the day he decides I need to accept Jesus’ love.  Like a Penis, an athiest with a above average knowledge of the Bible (thanks in part to you good folks) and science is a True Believers Nightmare.  My (Christian) wife will be sooooooooooo angry at me showing her up in public.

The problem is she can bitch all the way to the ceo of starbucks. Yet, I still can’t find a phone number, or website for that matter, to complain to god about all the religious crap I have to put up with.

The Way I See It #224
Darwinism’s impact on traditional social values has not been as benign as its advocates would like us to believe. Despite the efforts of its modern defenders to distance themselves from its baleful social consequences, Darwinism’s connection with eugenics, abortion and racism is a matter of historical record. And the record is not pretty.
-- Dr. Jonathan Wells

Biologist and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design.

A simple Google search yields a connection to the Discovery Institute.  I guess we can now use social ineptitudes of individuals to de-construct their arguments…

But at least Starbucks is balanced.

A few months ago John brought back from Starbucks a “The Way I See It” authored by some creationist expounding on the alleged superiority of humanity and what a travesty it is to teach children that they are genetically related to other species. We were both initially appalled, but then we remembered that we weren’t contractually obliged to purchase Starbucks coffee, so we had a good laugh.

It’s a shame how influential negativity is - i think things are as they are because businesses, the law (in regard to suing), etc are so responsive to whoever shouts the loudest, and they can shout negativity because it’s subjectiveness isn’t subject to the same scrutiny as positivity. I think people don’t question negativity so much because it hits the weak spot of the subjectivity of personal opinion.

Sadie, thanks for the George Sanders reference in your signature; it’s the first time I noticed it. I had some thought processes happening a few days ago and tried to recall his name and couldn’t.
I liked his suicide note.

“Dear World, I am leaving because I am bored. I feel I have lived long enough. I am leaving you with your worries in this sweet cesspool. Good luck.”.

The contents of five empty tubes of Nembutal had its way with him.
There was a programme on Euthanasia on the tube last nite and Philip reckoned the best method was Nembutal which can’t be bought in Oz these days but he showed us an ad from a woman’s magazine of the 50s heralding its ability to put terrible two-year olds to sleep with one or two tea spoons of the elixir.
Re the Nembutal: the programme showed 20 oldies, who’d made a pact, making some Nembutal complete with the ‘double, double toil and trouble, fire burn, and caldron bubble’ witches’ mantra from Macbeth.
These people were willing to risk up to 15 years imprisonment for manufacturing a prohibited substance just for the peace of mind of having an effective ‘non-violent’ way of exiting life when it became too bothersome.
Ah, another subject.

Timmeh: Yet, I still can’t find a phone number, or website for that matter, to complain to god about all the religious crap I have to put up with.

You’ll never find that phone number mate.
The only effective method of dealing with that disease is healthy doses of reality and we all know how subjective that is.

“Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure.”

On the radio a few months ago someone- I wish could remember who- was being interviewed. He said he wanted to(or possible had) put little notes inside the books in the ‘Mind Body and Spirit” section of a bookshop that said

Wise men and men of religeon spend a lifetime in quiet contemplation of the universe.  What makes you think you will find the secrets reading a self help book

I would love to do this- why is the “MB&S” bit always twice as big as the Popular Science section? (That’s a rhetorical question, you- especially Distant Claws- don’t have to answer that )

Yet, I still can’t find a phone number, or website for that matter, to complain to god about all the religious crap I have to put up with.

Timmeh, God sent me to tell you His e-mail address.  You can send your complaint here, and a note will be placed in the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem.  If you’re in a hurry, you can get the prayer, request, or service complaint placed in the Wall within thirty minutes here, but it will cost you $120.  But maybe it’s worth it.

Thank you but if I want to have some thing carved into a rock, I’ll do it myself. Hell that means a trip to the home depot( yesssss).

I still think Starbucks coffee is crap, but my respect for them just went up a smidgeon.  When we get God off my money and out of the Pledge, THEN you can talk to me about being bothered by unsolicited religious messages.

btw: It would also be interesting what this woman would think of a pro-religious message on the cup.  I’d be willing to bet she doesn’t have a problem with that.

Subscribing.

Swordsbane: I still think Starbucks coffee is crap

That it is. It’s unfortunate when I go on Starbucks benders, because all the while I’m thinking to myself “Why am I addicted to this shit?” Then I remember the copious amounts of caffeine they inject into their beverages, and it all falls into place. Anymore, I get my coffee from Dunkin’ Donuts. I think my nervous system appreciates it.

Sadie, thanks for the George Sanders reference in your signature

Don’t thank me, thank Ray Davies.

He is mentioned in The Kinks’ song Celluloid Heroes: “And if you covered him with garbage/George Sanders would still have style,” referring in fact to his star on Hollywood Blvd and referring allegorically to Sander’s screen persona.

Jeez; you make me work for it.

Somehow I’ve still managed to go through life so far without ever having a Starbucks at all.

Just a note to let you know. My son got one of the cups that had The Way I See It #247. He poured his coffee out and made his wife pour hers out. He informed me and my husband and we were a couple of you customers. As I said WERE.

Just a note to let you know. My son got one of the cups that had The Way I See It #247. He poured his coffee out and made his wife pour hers out. He informed me and my husband and we were a couple of you customers. As I said WERE.

WTF does “The Way I See It #247” mean? Is that SatanTalk for Reality?
And ... WTF is a “you customer”?
Have you bastards been inventing new code words while I wasn’t looking?
And there I thought I had my fingers on the Pulse of USian ‘culture’.
AND, Dara, has your son and his wife stopped being you customers or have your husband and you joined your son and his wife in having been, as in past tense, you customers?

I’m from Oz - home-schooling is very rare over here therefore every one gets a pret-ty good education resulting in the fact that we tend to explain ourselves a little better.

AND, why does Dara’s post remind me of ....
Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

I think I’ve got it sorted out now: 2 + 4 + 7 = 13.
That’s an unlucky-number number isn’t it? It’d really affect you ... being all ‘tardy and superstitious and believing in imaginary gods and devils and such.

I don’t think I can extract too much more juice from this ‘tard.

Would you feel better if the cup said something like this? Don’t think about how the world works, because “god” dosen’t like it when you do. Your idea of a “god” is self contradictry (for this I use the bible as that’s more than likely your basis for “god")
Jer. 13:14 as opposed to James 5:11,Ps. 145:9…
Gen. 32:30, Ex. 33:11 compaired to John 1:18, Ex. 33:20…
Gen. 22:1 to James 1:13
Ex. 15:3 to Rom. 15:33
The list goes on and on

Dara, that’s your choice I suppose, but it seems kinda stupid to me to stop patronizing an establishment over a single quote on a coffee cup you didn’t like. If I were to stop patronizing every establishment that slapped Bible versus all over something they sold I’d have only a handful of shops I could frequent.

Rather than get all indignant and pissy about it I just accept the fact that some nuts believe in that Bible crap and do my best to ignore it.

LJ, Dara is making reference to the coffee cup quote I wrote about in the original entry.