What zilch said. Postulating a creator is a superficially plausible explanation that raises more questions than it answers. It’s job security for the clergy, I suppose.

Webs writes…

I do not necessarily believe in a “God�?, but I, like most people that believe in science, also believe that something cannot be created from nothing.

Honestly, the fact that we can’t really answer this question satisfactorily at the moment isn’t much motivation for me to speculate about a supernatural entity being behind it all. As for “something from nothing” Einstein showed us that energy cannot be destroyed, it only changes form so it’s not entirely unreasonable to assume that the energy which exploded as the Big Bang had always been there.

Why it exploded and formed the universe is tougher to figure out because traditional physics breaks down the closer you get to the starting point, but that just means we need keep studying the question and coming up with new theories.

Elwed: Postulating a creator is a superficially plausible explanation that raises more questions than it answers.

But not for the True Believer™.
He manages to leap outside of all known logic, jump trustingly into magic, fantasy and wishful thinking, screeches to a stop at Goditit and, question no more.

But not for the True Believer™.
He manages to leap outside of all known logic, jump trustingly into magic, fantasy and wishful thinking, screeches to a stop at Goditit and, question no more.

Hey, I do that too.  Too much science hurts my brain. I find it fascinating, but I have a hard time wrapping my head around a lot of it.
I have faith in science, but I believe in something else. I don’t know exactly what that something else is, maybe it’s just more science. It’s certainly not some omnipotent being dealing out commandments like so many sacks of shit, but I like to believe that there is some sort of supernatural mysterious force that transcends what we percieve to be the physical world. Why? Quite simply because I like to. I don’t try to quantify or define it, because I like the mystery of it.
I can totally understand why people cling to their wacky religions. Reality is a scary place.
I just wish they wouldn’t be such assholes about it.

I don’t know exactly what that something else is, maybe it’s just more science. It’s certainly not some omnipotent being dealing out commandments like so many sacks of shit, but I like to believe that there is some sort of supernatural mysterious force that transcends what we percieve to be the physical world. Why? Quite simply because I like to. I don’t try to quantify or define it, because I like the mystery of it.

I like that explanation. 

And yes Zilch I see your point, and my reason for believing in something is illogical, but just like your background and life experiences have shaped what you think is true with this universe, so have mine.

I have faith in science, but I believe in something else.

There are some words that have meanings so firmly entrenched in the minds of their major users that to use them in any other way almost guarantees misunderstanding.

Such a word is “faith.” The godders OWN it.

Using their definition, which is the only one most people will hear when you do use the word, there is no “faith” necessary in science. In fact, to say that you have “faith” in science undermines science itself, in the very tenuous hold it has on godder minds.

Science might require acceptance, understanding, curiosity, excitement, or even amazement. It does not require “faith.”

Faith is a silly, fuzzy DELIBERATE belief in something for which the speaker has no independently-verifiable evidence.

Such a word is “faith.�? The godders OWN it.

Not so long as I continue to misappropriate it.