Another prayer study shows it don’t do jack shit.

Posted by Les on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 03:22 PM. Read 1359 times. Tags: ,
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Another day, another prayer study:

NEW YORK (AP)—In the largest study of its kind, researchers found that having people pray for heart bypass surgery patients had no effect on their recovery. In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications.

I can hear the conversations taking place in hospital rooms all over the country:

Wife: “Don’t worry sweetheart, I’ll pray for you.”

Husband: “Jesus Christ on a pogo stick! Are you trying to kill me?!”

How’d you like the way I mangled the headline for this entry? Pretty nasty, eh?

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Brock United States Posted on 03/30/2006 at 11:09 PM

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From another report of the study:

Koenig, of Duke University Medical Center, who didn’t take part in the study, said the results didn’t surprise him.

“There are no scientific grounds to expect a result and there are no real theological grounds to expect a result either,” he said. “There is no god in either the Christian, Jewish or Muslim scriptures that can be constrained to the point that they can be predicted.”

Within the Christian tradition, God would be expected to be concerned with a person’s eternal salvation, he said, and “why would God change his plans for a particular person just because they’re in a research study?”

Dr. David Stevens, executive director of the Christian Medical and Dental Associations, said he believes intercessory prayer can influence medical outcomes, but that science is not equipped to explore it.

“Do we control God through prayer? Theologians would say absolutely not. God decides sometimes to intervene, and sometimes not,” he said.

If Christians believe that God is above influence and that he has fashioned the world and it’s events already, why do the study in the first place?

And Dr. Stevens deserves distinction for the most wishy-washy statement contained therein.

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zilch Austria Posted on 03/31/2006 at 01:19 AM

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“There is no god in either the Christian, Jewish or Muslim scriptures that can be constrained to the point that they can be predicted.�

Yep.  And a god that can’t be predicted is a god that can’t be distinguished from chance.

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GeekMom United States Posted on 03/31/2006 at 06:56 AM

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So why even pray in the first place?  Is it more like, God isn’t paying attention, and you have to jostle his elbow?  “Oh yeah, right, I was going to intercede this one time.  Sorry about that.  I was busy rescuing a sparrow.”

Or is it that he’ll only intercede if you pray because he likes begging? 

I think it’s more that people feel better talking to themselves and reassuring themselves.

whitebloodoftheheavens United States Posted on 08/08/2006 at 04:39 PM

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That’s fucking hilarious!!!  I’m so bringing that up next time someone wants to fucking pray for me!  And the second study nails it down, showing that these ‘religious’ bigots simply can’t live with their own filth, so they have to pass everything on to someone else.  Brock, thanks for bringing that!

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