Ann Coulter defends McCarthyism.

Posted by Les on Friday, June 20, 2003 at 05:52 PM. Read 3039 times. Tags:
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The Drudge Report is offering up a few quotes out of Ann Coulter’s upcoming book titled TREASON: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism that would suggest that AC views former Senator Joe McCarthy as a sort of martyred hero:

“The myth of ‘McCarthyism’ is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times,” Coulter pounds.  “Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. Everything you think you know about McCarthy is a hegemonic lie.”

“Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals…

“McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party. “

CHAP 4: THE INDISPENSABLE JOE MCCARTHY

If any other religious cult knew so few basic facts about its own seminal beliefs as the liberal cult does about Joe McCarthy, Janet Reno would gas them.

Despite the leftΒs creation of a myth to defeat legitimate charges of treason, McCarthy had so badly stigmatized Communism, his victory survived him. In his brief fiery ride across the landscape, Joe McCarthy bought America another thirty years. For this, he sacrificed his life, his reputation, his name. The left cut down a brave man, but not before the American people heard the truth.

Man, and I thought Bill O’Reilly was a major douche bag. I can’t begin to describe my amazement that she would try to proclaim Joe McCarthy some sort of hero worth emulating or that his actions were in any way justified. The fact that this book will probably be a bestseller leaves me with the chills to think so many people consider her ravings worth reading.

Update: Solonor has written up an excellent rant about this that you should all go read right now. He manages to say everything I should have and provide a wealth of useful links on the topic of McCarthyism.

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geronimus United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 03:21 AM

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I’m sorry, but didn;t she do porn at one point?
She looks realy familiar…

nunyabiz United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 01:12 PM

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I find it rather amusing through all this bickering about What “McCarthy” was or wasn’t & why.
Then the list of FOX reporters, “Hannity & Colmes”
“OReilly”, list of “known” and self described “terrorist groups” such as “Hamas, Al Qaida, Hizballah, Yada Yada there are approx. 80 others” then there’s a list of Christian terrorist and yes they ARE terrorist regardless of how you try and cloud the definition “Eric Rudolph and Tim McViegh” there is actually a pretty long list 3 of which have been “honored” to be on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list along with other *non-terrorist* like Bin Laden etc.
Here is your *non-terrorist* Christians here though seems to me they are fully aware they are in fact terrorist and proud of it.

http://www.armyofgod.com/MatthewKachinis.html

I see The Inquisition, The Crusades, I believe were mentioned.
Then there’s Nazis/Hitler & the comparisons between pre-war Germany buying into the Nazi propaganda machine about “Ethnic Cleansing” for the betterment of the Aryan race, and Christian Fundamentalist/Terrorist, American Taliban in the USA with their OBVIOUS agenda of not just ethnic cleansing, but also sexual cleansing, moral cleansing, hell everything NON Christian cleansing in a nutshell.

This comparison is quite close, the ONLY difference between them is the USA does not YET have our Hitler counterpart as President AKA “Pat Adolf Robertson” *shudder*
Fact is as you can clearly see from various polls the majority of the USA is already heavily leaning towards this Christian terrorist propaganda machine since by far the majority of the USA is already “indoctrinated” and brainwashed into this insane view of the world around them, so all we would need would be some very charismatic, powerful public speaker, lunatic fringe Christian fanatic to lie,cheat & steal his way into the oval office and I guarantee all the good little “true Christians” would line right up and Goose step & Zeig Heil their way into whatever atrocity this lunatic would lead them into doing, and all they would to say for themselves afterward would be god loves you, & Amen.

Not sure but seems to me that Germans were not already so heavily leaning toward Hitler’s ideology prior to him gaining political power, Americans are quite obvious leaning very heavily towards fundamentalist Christian propaganda and have been for years. (Im sure Elwed will shed light on that)

This EXACT same thing has happened throughout human history, & history repeats itself mainly because of one reason.
There is one underlying reason or cause of everything all of you have listed here.
Hint: it doesn’t have a thing to do with whether your Liberal, Democratic, republican, conservative, libertarian, conservative democrat, liberal republican or any other useless political label one tries to place on another as a way to be divisive.
Fact is none of that really means shit, especially on a Global or entire human race scale of things.

I assure you Hamas or Bin Laden or Rudolf/McVeigh, etc. the list goes on could absolutely careless WTF your pissy little political label you put yourself under is.

ALL these lunatics care about is ONE thing and ONE thing only, and that is what in their diseased brainwashed little mind is “What does GOD want me to do” “What does their religion DEMAND they do” “What does my religious dogma insist be done” .
In the case of Hitler “How can I USE Christianity as the brainwashing propaganda tool it is”.

If you think some little liberal/Democrat/Republican moniker means jack fucking shit to anyone other than whatever lying POS politician your particular affiliation might vote for then your dreaming.

All this hatred, racism, intolerance, on a global scale for centuries have only ONE common denominator RELIGION.
2/3rds of this planets people are in one way or another governed by whatever fictitious God they blindly follow.
Such pure hatred & unbridled cruelty upon fellow human beings such as Genocide can only be attributed to one human frailty, RELIGION.

ONLY in RELIGION do you find “Justifications” for such brutality, human beings are not born with this hatred towards their fellow man, they are proselytized into this hatred through religious indoctrination.
Liberals/Democrats do not ordinarily kill Republicans though they may at times feel the urge to do so, but there is no holy scripture, some Fable, parable, or fairytale for them to fall back on as “Justification” ordained by God for such an action, least not because of the person being merely Liberal or republican.
If this was so then I might tune into CNN senate proceedings to watch the carnage.

I can already hear the mumblings of David saying “Oh they are not True Christians” or some average Muslim saying “Oh no that’s not what Islam teaches”..Got a one word answer to that BULLSHIT.

Religion “teaches” whatever some nutcase gleans from it.
I absolutely assure you that Tim McVeigh or Eric Rudolf, or Pat Adolf Robertson, Jim Jones, Jerry Eichmann Falwell, Randall Terry, Ossma Bin Laden, every nut strapping a bomb around their waist today, every freak that lit every bonfire to burn a witch, every lunatic that participated in every Genocide, ALL fully “believe” that they are a “True Christian” or “True Muslim” etc.

So how can this be? simple.
What you have in religion is nothing but a “Faith” based entirely on nothing but a “Belief”
In Christianity you have approx. 2 Billion people that all believe their little sect to be the only “true” version, many of which will fight to the death to advance it, you have many versions of the same Book, you have something like 22,000 different Christian sects/denominations.
Each “Christian” from whatever sect that picks up whatever version of whatever Bible is going to interpret it differently than the next and so on.

The reason of this is because you have individuals that are brainwashed into obsession over a “belief” in something THAT DOESN’T FUCKING EXIST IN REALITY.
Something of which there is absolutely ZERO Falsifiable proof of, something that can be interpreted to mean whatever the hell your little pee brain wants it to mean.
If your base intellect is so low that you fully 100% believe the Earth is only 6000 years old, Noah’s flood, some fictitious being spoke a few words and poof here we are and so on.
Then you are liable to fall for ANYTHING, you can be easily led to believe any lunatics insane babblings no matter how far fetched they may seem.

All they or you have to do is interpret whatever parable in the Bible or Koran to mean whatever the hell you want it to, then your actions no matter how insane or brutal are completely justified BY GOD.
So your little Crusade or inquisition or Jihad is all ordained by god, your doing nothing but “Gods Work” you have no remorse actually the more you kill the better you feel, the closer you are to God. WooHoo, throw another witch on the fire boys going to be a long cold night in gods country.

Religion breeds hatred, demands intolerance, preaches racism, condones genocide, justifies any atrocity in the name of god.
It is by far the most divisive & destructive tool humans have at their disposal and its all in the mind.

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 03:29 PM

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Not sure but seems to me that Germans were not already so heavily leaning toward Hitler’s ideology prior to him gaining political power, Americans are quite obvious leaning very heavily towards fundamentalist Christian propaganda and have been for years. (Im sure Elwed will shed light on that)

Ever since my high school days I’m trying to understand the Third Reich and all I have to show for it is that I can’t. The cultural and historical background is complex, but I do not believe that a majority of Germans bought into the national socialistic ideology.

As a case in point, Hitler never won an absolute majority and ruled by gutting the constitution and main force. In hindsight, the Weimar constitution was built to self-destruct.

A simplistic view is that Hitler succeeded by outfoxing his political opponents, while hiding his true colors in plain sight. It’s safe to say that the Germans, like all other Europeans of the time, were squarely nationalistic and I believe that the righting of the unjust dictates of Versailles was the rallying point behind the national socialists. That they considered this as an inconsequential side product of their real objectives was apparently lost.

Is it possible that the US will devolve into a totalitarian theocracy? Yes. The next presidential elections will hint at the probability.

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nunyabiz United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 06:03 PM

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That sounds perfectly logical and pretty much what I had thought.

The odds of the USA at this point turning into a totalitarian Theocracy are 100% unless we can start turning the tide of ignorance in this country.
Christians are losing approx. 1% to their ranks every year since 86 but it appears though as more solid valid information comes to light proving that Evolution is more than just theory and massive doubts on the existence of God that for every 1% that depart the fold there are about 1% that turn deeper into the lunacy and become Fundamentalist loony tunes.
We desperately need another Scopes trial nationally televised and a good one.
We must fight back this wave of insanity that’s sweeping this country under the guise of Christianity.

If Christians gain total control of the strongest country on Earth they will not hesitate a split second to squash every nation that stands in its way to proselytize the world and their age old arch enemies the Muslims are top of that list.

Imagine if you will the 21st century Crusades but fought with current weapons instead of swords & rocks. It will not be a pretty sight.

It will all be fully justified by God of course and they will feel no remorse just another day of Gods work, Amen.

This idea just now came to me, its no freaking wonder no peace talks or any diplomacy rarely works since all involved are usually a bunch of religious zealots on both sides, neither is ever going to listen to the other as their religious agendas will always get in the way.

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 07:29 PM

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That’s a bit too absolute a position. However, once a theocracy gains traction, it’s extremely hard to oppose secular and religious prejudice combined. In hindsight, it’s always easy to determine the point of no return…

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Toney Highbrow United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 10:00 PM

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Thanks, nunyabiz. You pretty much summed it up.
To get back to the original question, one thing Anne Coulter (and everybody else) seems to leave out, is a basic, medical fact. Senator McCarthy was half drunk by noon, dead drunk by eight pm, every day of
his elected office. He drank himself to death.
Damn those Commie Pinkoes, they drove him to it!

What do you future theocrats think o’ that?

nunyabiz United States Posted on 04/08/2004 at 11:00 PM

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might be a tad absolute I guess but we are so close to a full blown Theocracy already that its scary.
I hope it doesn’t happen in my lifetime but Im not very optimistic, hate to see this country go down the tubes buts its well on its way right now if we cant loosen this death grip the religious right has over it.

nunyabiz United States Posted on 04/09/2004 at 09:54 AM

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This pretty much sums it up, although I disagree with his statement that “The Christian right is not a violent group of people”

There is in fact a very large percentage of that Christian Right that is Violent.
Just look at all the 100s & 100s of “Christian based hate groups” abortion clinic bombings, Gay bashing, etc.

http://www.knightsofenlightenment.net/Religion.html

The Christian Right Fundamentalist/Terrorist are easily the biggest threat to American sovereignty today.
Number one its largely these nutcases in high office be it The President, or Senate, Congress, and right down to military officials that have placed the USA on the chopping block of world opinion in the first place.

So while these Christian Fundamentalist are getting the rest of the world to hate us, they are chipping away from within to completely take over the country with their Totalitarian Theocratic rule.

I see no way of stopping it either unless the vast majority of citizens snap out of this religious stupor and realize & face religion for exactly what it is....BULLSHIT!

nunnyabiz United States Posted on 04/09/2004 at 10:19 AM

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Bah left out the other site i was going to list.

http://www.counterpunch.org/cook10272003.html

elwedriddsche United States Posted on 04/09/2004 at 10:50 AM

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Ever since David mentioned absolute morals, there is something I wanted to quote:

“The only absolute truth is change, and death is the only way to stop change. Life is a series of judgements on changing situations, and no ideal, no belief fits every solution. Yet humans need to believe in something beyond themselves. Perhaps all intelligences do. If we do no act on higher motivations, then we can justify any action, no matter how horrible, as necessary for our survival. We are endlessly caught between the need for high moral absolutes - which will fail enough that any absolute can be demonstrated as false - and our tendency for individual judgements to degenerate into self-gratifying and unethical narcissm. Trying to force absolutes on others results in death and destruction, yet failing to act beyond one’s self also leads to death and destruction, generally a lot sooner”

This is from “The Parafaith War” by L.E.Modesitt, Jr. - a science fiction novel. When you think about it, this is near-perfect summary of the Third Reich and other totalitarian regimes.

I suppose there is a very dangerous breed of people that try to force their own narcissm on others, using the bludgeon of absolute moral values.

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