Oh man, that’s not cool.  The excrement had BETTER hit the rotating air circulator over this… I find it interesting that I have learned more from SEB than hours of CNN and co.  Surely its a sign we’re long overdue for a revolution?

What a surprise.

If Clinton was almost crucified from his lie what punishment would be even closely in proportion to continuous serious lies of Dubya and his administration?
I think crushing them with tank, shooting them full of lead with Gatling minigun and burning alive wouldn’t be even closely enough.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/mk77.htm

Surely its a sign we’re long overdue for a revolution?

Do you think Dubya’s cabinet represents citizens:
http://corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11458

The excrement had BETTER hit the rotating air circulator over this…

Unfortunately, Azumith, the average American’s tolerance for shit in the face is getting higher all the time, and the Administration’s spin doctors have most convinced that it’s chocolate pudding anyway…

*sigh* See, it’s this sort of thing that gets the third world up in arms (literally).  Generic atrocity gets splashed on Al Jazeera and numerous other networks, then they look over at America, and see a general lack of concern.  Well, I dunno ‘bout you, but I would find it hard to be concerned about something I didn’t know had happened. 
The only solace I have had of late is when Tv 3 here in NZ apologized for listing G.W Bush’s occupation (just after re-election) as “professional fascist”.  Yes, human error.  Riiiight. :D

I recall having heard that we used the MK77 during the Falluja campaign last November. Perhaps not.

The confirmation that US officials misled British ministers led to new questions last night about the value of the latest assurances by the US. Mr Cohen said there were rumours that the firebombs were used in the US assault on the insurgent stronghold in Fallujah last year, claims denied by the US. He is tabling more questions seeking assurances that the weapons were not used against civilians.

Our use of Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions is something else that isn’t discussed in the mainstream media.

Iraq has experienced a dramatic increase in child cancers, leukemia and birth defects in recent years. Wisam, Iraqi medical authorities and growing numbers of American activists cast blame on the U.S. weapons containing depleted uranium that were used in the 1991 Gulf War and in the 1998 missile attacks on Baghdad and other major cities. They also assert that such munitions—which were also used by U.S. forces in Bosnia, Kosovo and Serbia in far smaller quantities—may be a cause of Gulf War diseases, elusive maladies that have affected 50,000 to 80,000 U.S. veterans of the 1991 conflict.

The Pentagon says studies it has sponsored have found no evidence that depleted uranium, known as DU, causes serious illnesses, while many international medical experts remain on the fence, citing the lack of definitive scientific evidence on the issue.

No surprise there.

DU (uranium 238) is about 40 percent less radioactive than natural uranium, but it remains radioactive for 4.5 billion years. Because it is such a highly dense metal—heavier than lead or steel—it is prized for its abilities to both penetrate military armor and provide shielding against attack.

Upon impact, DU produces extremely fine uranium oxide dust that is both chemically toxic and radioactive. Easily spread by wind, it is inhaled and absorbed into the human body and absorbed by plants and animals, becoming part of the food chain.

Makes you proud to be an American doesn’t it?

The only solace I have had of late is when Tv 3 here in NZ apologized for listing G.W Bush’s occupation (just after re-election) as “professional fascist�

I gotta move to NZ! LOL!

Seriously though.  Americans are messed up.  This is partially because our media is messed up.  What’s more important over here: crazed pop-star court cases or the use of napalm on a foreign people?  A woman who ran away from a wedding or more proof that this war is unjust?  I could go on and on and on…

What the fuck is wrong with you people?  You’re concerned about the US using napalm on a country that was led by an Evil Dictator when we still cannot find a MISSING WHITE WOMAN?  Talk about screwed up priorities!   

We dropped 4 million pounds of depleted uranium on Iraq in 2003 alone. Our soldiers which the republicans say support so often are going to be chock full of this crap by the time they come home.
Some of you know I’m in the military. I am at such a bad time in my career right now because of everything going on. I want to follow through on my oaths, but the part of me that actually cares about other human beings wants to call it quits at times.
I was reading a thread on military dot com earlier and somebody started a thread about whether or not this war has anything to do with oil. He said even if it did he was all for it and most of the people there ageed with him.
One guy said that if it took war to secure oil and our way of life, then bring it on.
I’m as frightened by the implications of oil depletion as the next guy, but I will never start to believe it’s ok for us to indiscriminately kill people of other countries so that we can continue our comfortable way of life that much longer.

Hey Les,

This is off topic, but I wanted to point you to a story on the BBC about a nun that was bound to a cross, gagged and left in a cold room for three days for an exorcism. Needless to say, she died and the guy who did it had this to say.

“I don’t understand why journalists are making such a fuss about this. Exorcism is a common practise in the heart of the Romanian Orthodox church and my methods are not at all unknown to other priests,” Father Daniel added.

OK, napalm is bad, but wasn’t that the point?  When you drop napalm, aren’t you trying to kill people?  Is there a nice way to kill the enemy?

The question is, how can we avoid a war in the first place?  Seems there were a few missed opportunities to avoid this one.

At least with napalm, when it’s gone, it’s gone.  Maimed survivors live with pain but no new victims.  With DU and especially with landmines, the hits just keep on comin’…

That’s a good point.  But like the terminator says, it’s in our nature to destroy ourselves.  War,sadly, is part of our nature.  I imagine the first ‘war’ was when one cave man wanted another cave mans cave, so he walked on in and smacked him in the head with a log.  And so the idea of killing people to get what you want was born…

I was reading yesterday about the Falkland Islands, and how landmines are still washing up on beaches, and that large tracts of land are fenced off. Depriving a whole generation of kids their natural playground probably wasn’t what the Argentine government of the time had in mind, but that’s what’s happened.  There is no humane way to kill someone, but some ways are worse than others.

VernR on 6/18/05 at 11:50 AM wrote the following…

I recall having heard that we used the MK77 during the Falluja campaign last November. Perhaps not.

I blogged some speculation to that effect myself, after I saw the before & after satellite photos. Roughly a third of the city was completely blackened. I made an animated GIF of some of them, and it’s pretty convincing that there was some sort of incendiary device used.

Our use of Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions is something else that isn’t discussed in the mainstream media.

Of course not. And anomalous cases of Acute Eosinophilic Pneumonia Among US Military Personnel Deployed in or Near Iraq have nothing whatsoever with it, either. Nothing to see here, people...move along…

The average American/Westerner is soooooo far, far removed from the Reality of The World.  A life of rank consumerism, filled with peacefull-valley-induced philosophy, and a constant goal of ever-increasing amusement cannot equip a person with the necessary experience to understand the unpleasant necessity of war.  Life is too moderated, too safe, and too fun in the West for such a leap of real-world-awareness.

While i, too, (intensly) dislike war, i can still see its obvious momentary necessity.  Case in point: Most Westerners failed to see that the MidEast was, slowly but surely, entering a dramatically dangerous phase immediately after the collapse of the US/Soviet cold conflict.  The balance of power in the MidEast was being destabilized at an alarming rate.  Theocracy, sans democracy, was gaining hold in an otherwise secular culture. Cairos women, the most Westernized of all, (after the fall of Teheran) now see fit to cover their hair. Even Saddam Hussein saw fit to embrace (superficial) fundamentalist Islamic rhetoric, in his a decidely non-religious regime any time prior.  Things in the MidEast were changing fast, without an effective, reformist Western-induced response.

You may not like the tools of war, like me, but unless you can suggest a plausible alternative in a very violent world, you merely continue the grand trend of Western consumerist, soft, pudgy thinking, much to the amusement of the West’s enemies.

The near future:
[] A culturally secularized, islami-democratic, militarily-strong Iraq dominating the the MidEast’s geographic core, effectively counter-balancing Teheran’s terror-presense.
[] An Egyptian islami-democracy, modeled after Iraq, coupled with a strong military to counter-balance an increasingly destabilized Libya-Chad-Sudan region.

Be real, and think real.
(And shun the consumermist pleasure-addicts in your midst.)

Fallujah Napalmed

Journalists tell of Fallujah killings