Was there ever any doubt?

HERE’S MY RESPONSE TO WHY THE QURAN IS TRUYLY A MIRACLE IN ITS PERFECTION:

No matter how many times you say it, that doesn’t make it true. (Kindergarten 1972)

One thing I will agree with you on.  The Qur’an is truly a miracle inasmuch for all its contradictions, inaccuracies and stupefying commentary, it’s still managed to persuade millions of needy, close-minded and fearful people to commit perverted acts upon themselves and humanity in general.

The Qu’ran, the Bible, the Torah, the Patriot Act etc… were written by fallible men for one purpose and one purpose only.  To control the masses while instilling discipline and fear.  The sooner you come to terms with that, the sooner you won’t have to believe a fairytale alleging that one of it’s main characters overheard a conversation of ants.

No matter how many scholars work at revising and rewriting these books, they will never be ‘perfect’ or inspired by gods because the underlying agenda will never change causing hypocrisies and contradictions to persist.

Was there ever any doubt? 

Hardly. 

The Qu’ran, the Bible, the Torah, the Patriot Act etc… were written by fallible men for one purpose and one purpose only.  To control the masses while instilling discipline and fear.

Exactly. There is another discussion going on right about this time regarding the fallacious belief inherent in organized religion that the faithful are necessarily better people than the non-faithful. When too many people believe this and it becomes part of a national agenda (as it has with the Right in the United States and with fundamentalists in many Islamic nations) then trouble is afoot.

While the Bible, Koran, et. al. have certainly inspired many people to live better lives and have given many more people hope, they have still been used as dangerous instruments of mass control. Good has come of religion, but it is still the opiate of the masses and, as such, a very dangerous thing to mix with politics.

DAMN!!!…
Where where these women when I was 14. I would have loved to nailed a 42 year old woman or one of my teachers!!!

I think the age differences has got very differences. In my life which is going on now is:::
I had falled in love with a girl of age 23 years old & i am 17. So i m thinking of marrying her. I need some opinion of you guys please. We are 6 year old differences. Is this possible. Can anyone help me out. I should marry or not. I can’t say.. i am giong out with her in next hour so we can get married before i get your opinion. I will try to marry later & then first i’ll get your suggestions then i’ll marry. Please HELP ME!!
It is my life and death moments of my life. In this 2006 Sept. i’ll be 18 & in this March she’ll be 24. What should i do??? Should i marry or not.

MAIL:

Is it an arranged marriage, Mamun?  If so, will she not be dishonored if you reject her?  The decision not to marry implies a larger rejection of tradition and won’t make you very popular among your friends. 

Six years is a quarter of her lifespan right now, and 33% of yours.  As the two of you get older, the difference will be of smaller proportion.  My wife and I are only 11 months different in age, but after 25 years together we get along much better than we did when we first married.

From the time stamp of your post I assume the issue is resolved one way or another already.  The age difference will be the least of your problems.  Be sure to respect each other and be forgiving of each other.  Happiness and best of luck to both of you. 

Thanks for your reply..

Is it an arranged marriage, Mamun?

No..! Its not. If we get married then without letting our parents know at first, later on we will let our parents know it, then whether they accept it or not.

will she not be dishonored if you reject her?

I can’t even reject her because i am in a such deep love that i can’t come back from that position. I falled in love without knowing the age of the girl atfirst.

From the time stamp of your post I assume the issue is resolved one way or another already.

No, it has not been solved yet.
Today we did not get married, I gave a false weired news and she said okay then day-after-tommorow.

NOW WHAT SHOULD I DO? SHOULD I MARRY HER, WILL WE BE HAPPY AFTER SOME YEARS, WILL THAT BE RIGHT FOR US & ALL. ???????????????

Not an arranged marriage?  That changes the picture a little.  Being unable to tell the future, I can’t tell you if you should marry her but deceiving your parents will cause them a lot of pain and in the long run, pain for you too.  Most parents want their children to live happy, honorable lives; the question is how and there are often disagreements on that point.

I can tell you that romantic love burns very hot for about two years, sometimes three, then cools.  But marriages go much longer than that.  You and your intended bride should ask yourself some very practical questions about children, bills, and how you will each handle interference from the others’ families. 

If you have the option of waiting, don’t be afraid to wait.  Waiting seldom does harm. All the best to both of you.

Mmm! you gave me a good idea of asking this questions. Let me ask her first then lets see what comes the result.

If it does pain our parents then what to do? if we tell them normally then they will not agree it anyway so the one way is get married by giong away and then come back to ask whether they will accept it or not. Once we are married then no one can stop us to be seperated. Our parents had to accept us anyhow.

Your idea is great and a good help. We both can find out our future by asking this practical questions and whether we should get together now or later. Thank you. I’ll let everyone know about this matter ofcourse.

im 21 and i banged a 42 yr old last nite and it wuz da best and im thinkin of hookin up again..

Wow. The previous comment was..amusing, to say the least. Juancho? The fuck? Fake-ass shit for brains name.

But, I think this is on the verge of being very wrong. I don’t know the whole story, and I don’t see the wrongness if they’re both consenting, but I do recognize that this boy hasn’t fully developed. His parents need to step in and just say “Hey, we don’t think you’re ready for that kind of commitment yet. No offense, really, but we’re thinking for your best here.”

I just wonder how they met and what circumstances created such ‘love.’

His parents need to step in and just say “Hey, we don’t think you’re ready for that kind of commitment yet. No offense, really, but we’re thinking for your best here.�?

Since parental consent was a requirement for the marriage to take place and since the boy’s father clearly approved, I doubt that the parents will be stepping in and taking preventive measures any time soon. Although I’d be curious to know if the boy and the woman are still married after nearly three years.

Yeah, I know that, Miss Sadie. Just talking as to what would be the proper parental reaction in that occasion.

But, yeah. I doubt it’ll last. She’ll get frustrated after long, I bet.

What about the 7 year itch, when he’s 21 and has had 7 years experience with an older woman?

Hello..

I have one question about marriage. Should a 17 years old boy marry a girl by falling in love. No matter the girls age is 25 or 30 but is this okay to get married in this teenage only 17. And the marriage is ofcourse behind the parents i mean court marriage, coz parents is not going to accept and love marriage. So can any one tell me abt it.

Best Regards,
Mamun

I think you’ll find that there’s a number of possible answers to that question depending on whom you ask. The first issue is a question of legality. Depending on where you are (and you appear to be in Hong Kong) it may or may not be legal for a 17 year old to get married without parental consent. Beyond that I’d say it would depend on a number of factors including how emotionally mature the 17 year old is as well as whomever they plan to marry. There are certainly a number of people who got married at such a young age and managed to go on to a long and happy marriage, but there’s also plenty of people for whom this is not the case.

Personally, I’d tend to advise against getting married so young for the simple reason that most folks aren’t really done developing into the person they’ll be for the rest of their lives until their early 20s. Who you are at 17 and who you are at 25 may be entirely different people.

Thank for you opinions.. Now atlast. This 14th April 2006. I married her to with whom i falled in love. She is living in her house and i m living in my house. None of our families knows about us. And I do not know what will happen next. I was sweating when i was going to sign the paper of cot marriage & my hand was shaking a little bit. I am know a husband of a girl. But I am only 17 now. I m studying in 11th/12th grade only now. I can’t even do jobs to earn money. What will happen in my future? By thinking about this I became sickkkkkkkkk! My decision is if something goes wrong then immediately i’ll do suicide. Nothing more is possible for me to live in this big world. :_(

All the best to you and your new wife, Mamun.  The story of your life may take some hard turns but please think ahead - someday you will look back and say “that was hard, but we got through it”.

What I think is that if these people love each other that is all that matters but I don’t think these two have alot in common though it must be that they had sex before they got married, and you know when a kid has sex in his mind he’s thinking that man I just had sex with a 42 year old women he’s thinking that it is love or something but it really isn’t.

I think it is exciting to see 14 year old is getting matured blowjob from a 42 year old. I would have done it if I had the chance

Sassafrass: I think it is exciting to see 14 year old is getting matured blowjob from a 42 year old. I would have done it if I had the chance

Shit man ... at close enough to 60 it’d be cool now! 

Yeah being 14, even for the mentally and physically mature ones (which this boy would have to be) seems wrong to me.

BUT. And theres always a but. This world seems to be full of systems, different ones in different places all over the shot. Some made by the law and pushed by society, others just an issue of morality or what people are used to in their own culture! (Egyptians having sex with children was the norm, it really was).

HOW CAN LAWS CHANGE IF WE DONT PUSH THE BOUNDARIES!?!!

Okay this is a bad topic to link this opinion to namely because its such a heated issue. But really!? Im so confused with what “law” or “rule” to turn to, i wouldnt be so sure whether i shud be condoning the 14 yo and older woman.. because ITS HAPPENING FOR SOME REASON!!

Well, I think it’s a free country and you have to be FREE to do that!  You have to remember that what society is.  It is what the ‘local’ think, I guess I would say.  I believe that Austraila has an age of consent of 10, but they specify that this is between closely aged partiapents.  To the whomever it was that was 14, what if you met an 18 yo that was very attractive to you?  Here that means 20 years in prison! If you were 13 here it’s considered much worse as a felony rape convition and that multiplies the jail term. Then in Brazil, there is not age of concent, which is why it is difficult to use the web there since they are afraid that you will view child porn.

Don’t most of you agree that freedom, is different for each of us.  You can’t step in and say “you don’t need” or “you can’t operate that way"…
If you don’t understand read about some of the dictatorships and how they handle things.

that sh** is funny i cound never marry a 42 year old woman my mother is her age

Is this still getting tossed around?  I think that I should be able to marry anyone I wish.  If you think it’s wrong, then you have a problem with reality.  They have been doing this for years. Who was it, Jerry Lee Louis? that married his 12 or 14 yo cousin and took a lot of s__t over it.  It was legal and they were in love… It’s not like you have to live with them!

Jack