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  1. Assuming there are people still around by then, I expect you will be proved right.

    There are of course still plenty of people who think like those in the 40 year old picture, they tend to be a bit more circumspect about airing their viewpoint now though.

  2. Yep, it was stupid to allow race mixing 40 years ago and its stupid to allow homosexuals to have the same rights as normal people today.

  3. You’re on the wrong side of history, Moloch, but then that’s probably not news to you. Gay marriage is an inevitability either through persuasion or attrition. With each new generation born the march towards the day that homosexuals are allowed the same freedoms as heterosexuals comes closer. Perhaps you’ll be lucky enough to be dead by the time it happens and thus spared the humiliation of still being a racist homophobe, but I hope not. I want you to live long enough to see it come to pass.

  4. You are correct Les, public perversion increases with every generation.
    Pretty soon it will be okay for pedophiles to openly profess their attraction to young children. Its just another “perversion” like gay sex, whats the difference? Both were “normal” in the Greek and Roman times before people got some sense, so why should it not be okay now that we are allowing such perverted things to be accepted?

  5. Pretty soon it will be okay for pedophiles to openly profess their attraction to young children. Its just another “perversion” like gay sex, whats the difference? Both were “normal” in the Greek and Roman times before people got some sense, so why should it not be okay now that we are allowing such perverted things to be accepted?

    Gay sex is not a perversion and in Greek and Roman times people didn’t have the concept of children’s rights. Now we do have it.
    It amazes me how people like you do see difference between heterosexuality and pedophilia, but fail to see it between homosexuality and pedophilia while those stand at exactly the same distance from each other.

  6. Gay sex is a natural perversion. A homosexual can’t decide to become attracted only to the opposite sex any more than a pedophile can decide to become attracted only to adults.
    I’m not saying homos are pedos or pedos are homos, they are two distinct mental illnesses. I’m merely using them for examples.

  7. @ Moloch:

    A homosexual can’t decide to become attracted only to the opposite sex any more than a pedophile can decide to become attracted only to adults.

    The same way as heterosexual can’t decide to become attracted only to the people of his own sex.
    There is no difference in this aspect.

    This is just what happens, there is always a small percentage of people that are homosexuals (or left-handlers, for the instance). There is no reason for a discrimination of a minority like this, be it homosexuals or left-handlers, they should have the equal right with everyone.

    The pedophiles are a completely different case, since it involves children.

    Btw, what’s a “natural perversion”?

  8. The same way as heterosexual can’t decide to become attracted only to the people of his own sex.
    There is no difference in this aspect.

    This is just what happens, there is always a small percentage of people that are homosexuals (or left-handlers, for the instance). There is no reason for a discrimination of a minority like this, be it homosexuals or left-handlers, they should have the equal right with everyone.

    The pedophiles are a completely different case, since it involves children.

    Much more than just “involves children.” Pedophilia, like rape, is not really a “sex” crime, but a crime of aggression and dominance over someone weaker. Homosexual attraction between equal adults is not a perversion, but a small area of the bell curve of normality. Pedophilia includes heterosexual as well as homosexual aggression and dominance, not true sexual attraction. How can anyone not see the difference? Blurring the lines will not help your case, Moloch.

    Peace.

  9. If coexistence and tolerance are no longer virtues in our country, and outlawing pernicious aspects of society that I consider immoral is now the American Way, then what is the procedure for banning organized religion, Fox News, and the Republican Party? Should I go door to door with a petition? And while I can’t comprehend how gay marriage is destructive to regular marriage, how do I go about reporting Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Rush Limbaugh, and about half the adult Christian population for violating the sanctity of marriage by divorcing? Should I call the Catholic League?

  10. Now there are the real violations of the sanctity of marriage. “But that’s what I’m doing, not what others are doing, so it can’t be a violation.”

    ;-)

    Peace.

  11. @ Moloch:

    Just a few things. First of all I think that the people in the top picture look dumber than the ones in the bottom picture, but they are all pretty stupid.

    As for the thing Moloch said about the pedophiles eventually being able to do what they want. Religion says nothing about pedophiles being wrong, and in the church it is covered up. But let’s just say those are just a few people in the church, for the sake of argument. However, you must also realize that this is something people did back before the Renascence and it wasn’t considered to be wrong at all to marry off a 14 year old. Gay marriage is nothing wrong because it’s 2 consenting adults.

  12. I agree with Leguru that the metaphor that between pedophiles and Gay marriage is the incorrect one. IE the discussion between equal rights and that of aggression and abuse. The correct metaphor should be between Gay marriage and that of multiple marriages (polygamy). Of course there still exists abuse in heterosexual marriages such as arranged marriage and just plain abusage relationships. This should be the focus of those who are rejecting Gay marriage if they want to make a positive impact on society. Of course a positive impact is not what they want, but I’ve got mine, too bad for you is their mindset.

    In forty years we will be having this discussion again with multiple marriages. I hope I’m around to see it, as the Mormon Church will probably explode. The entertainment value would be priceless.

    Relationships between consenting adults should not be regulated. Do I need to marry to give those rights to one I call my best friend whom I don’t live with? How can those rights be assigned short of marriage? Society is constantly changing, you may not always agree with it, but deal with it.

    Thanks Les I’ve enjoyed your blog for years! :grin:

  13. @ EyesOnly(UK):

    Precisely, EyesOnly.

    As the openly gay Bayard Rustin, founding figure of the Civil Rights Movement and mentor to MLK, said (and take particular note of the last sentence):
    “There are four burdens, which gays, along with every other despised group, whether it’s blacks following slavery and reconstruction, or Jews fearful of Germany, must address. The first is recognize one must overcome fear. The second is overcoming self-hate. The third is overcoming self-denial. The fourth is more political. It is to recognize that the job of the gay community is not to deal with extremists who would castigate us or put us on an island and drop an H-bomb on us. The fact of the matter is that there is a small percentage of people in America who understand the true nature of the homosexual community. There is another small percentage who will never understand us. Our job is not to get those people who dislike us to love us. Nor was our aim in the civil rights movement to get prejudiced white people to love us. Our aim was to try to create the kind of America, legislatively, morally, and psychologically, such that even though some whites continued to hate us, they could not openly manifest that hate. That’s our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay sentiment.”

  14. One person’s “perversion” is another’s normal. Depending on time, place, and cultural circumstance.

    I don;t give a dman if it -is- “perverted”. Consenting adults can do whatever the hell they want with each other. WHat business is it of mine? What kind of busybody, controlling big brother society do we want; telling free, sovereign adults what is right and wrong in their own homes and lives?

    Comparing pedophilia and homosexuality is just stupid. I think a free and intelligent society should not concern itself with controlling the lives of its adult citizens, and bringing up pedophilia is irrelevant to the issue, since children are not, well, gee, adults, and the relationship is exploitative as Leguru pointed out.

    Moloch are you saying you want a big brother goverment telling you what is perversion? It’s all fine and good ’til they happen to pick -your- brand of perversion.. Whatever it is.. Eh?

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