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  1. It’s not that good a question… There’s lots of answers I can think of right off the top of my head (for the record, this comic has already assumed the existence of a God and his ability to impregnate the virgin Mary, therefore these things are not in question.)
    1. He already made Adam, what would be the point in making a second Adam with super powers?

    2. The whole point of the birth of Jesus was to have God live as a man, so that believers can see him suffer the way that we all suffer just by being human. Meaning that he needed to start as a baby and have parents to raise him.

    3. He kind of did “create” his own son, but in a way that binds the natural with the super natural, a virgin birth.

    You have to understand that it’s all very symbolic.

  2. Brendan, you’re taking this a tad too seriously, but I’m game. Let’s look at your answers.

    Brendan wrote:

    1. He already made Adam, what would be the point in making a second Adam with super powers?

    Well, there would be that whole not-raping-Mary thing. Not to mention the fact that you can make something from nothing means this whole impregnating a woman is pointless.

    2. The whole point of the birth of Jesus was to have God live as a man, so that believers can see him suffer the way that we all suffer just by being human. Meaning that he needed to start as a baby and have parents to raise him.

    Yes, I’m sure Jesus as a child was disciplined by his parents no differently than any other child despite the fact that his parents knew he was God made flesh. I’m sure he suffered through all the things all the other children suffered through as well. Probably was sick all the time, malnourished, etc. because that just makes sense, right? Shame the Bible doesn’t say much about his childhood, but somehow I suspect it wasn’t anything like what other kids went through.

    If God had truly wanted Jesus to live as a human and experience the suffering that we all experience then there would’ve been no angels announcing his pending birth. Joseph would’ve thought it was his own doing that brought him into the world, and Jesus would be kept from any knowledge of his true heritage until it was time for him to start his ministry, but according to the Bible none of that was true. It’s pretty sad when I can come up with a better plan for a man-god’s life than God can.

    3. He kind of did “create” his own son, but in a way that binds the natural with the super natural, a virgin birth.

    Or at least that’s what Mary wanted Joseph to think. If God does exist and if events unfolded as the Bible says they did (and the Bible can’t even agree on the events) then Mary was raped. She wasn’t a consenting party. Given God’s supposed abilities it was a totally unnecessary thing to do. Certainly an all-knowing being would already have an understanding of the human experience, especially considering he’s a large part of what brought that experience into being,

    Besides, the whole virgin birth thing had been done to death by other Gods back then. It wasn’t an original idea on God’s part. Certainly he’s clever enough he could’ve come up with something much more impressive and novel.

    You have to understand that it’s all very symbolic stupid..

    Fixed that for you. Of course if it is symbolic then that makes it even more pointless. Who’s God trying to impress? The people? Could do that without all this nonsense. Himself? Why?

    Not to mention the whole idea of God making himself human so he can sacrifice himself to himself to appease his anger with his own creation is just about as stupid as it gets. Makes it seem like God is brain damaged or something.

  3. Jesus? Created? That sounds like Arianism, which is almost as bad as atheism.

    1. He already made Adam, what would be the point in making a second Adam with super powers?

    Jesus is often referred to as the “new Adam.” St. Paul formulates this imagery in Romans 5:

    7 For if, by the trespass of the one man [Adam], death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!”

    Anyway, the Virgin Birth story does not appear in the earliest sources. Mark’s Gospel (the earliest existing gospel) does not mention it, it does not seem to appear in the hypothetical Q Gospel, and it does not appear in the authentic writings of St. Paul. I doubt that Mary, if she existed, ever claimed the virgin birth; it was likely a later Christian tradition. We do not see it until Matthew and Luke’s Gospels, later products, and as Les noted they contradict each other on the details. Matthew tries to give legitimacy to the virgin birth tale by citing Isaiah 7, but he distorts and manipulates Isaiah in an obvious and embarrassing manner. The miracle is that anyone believes it.

    According to legend the mother of Romulus and Remus was a Vestal Virgin, and the father was the god Mars. The Buddha was also born miraculously, if not of a virgin; apparently an elephant impregnated his mother in a dream and she gave birth to Gautama through her side. Speaking of super powers, I believe that Iron Man and Wolverine were conceived conventionally. But I haven’t read comics since I was a kid, and I suspect that comics are about as useful and about as believable as these religious tales. Do comic book companies receive the same tax exemptions that churches do?

    As for Joseph, I also doubt that he would have been happy with the arrangement. The Catholic Church tries to make it worse for him by insisting that Mary was a perpetual virgin, but the Gospels make it pretty clear that she had other children. Whether they were Joseph’s kids or not, who knows? Perhaps they were the FSM’s kids.

  4. According to the New Testament, Joseph was married to Mary, but before the marriage was consummated, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee; therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” Luke I:35

    That makes the conjugal relationship with “the Highest” an adultery. “And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”

    That’s a very good question, Joseph.

    ;)

    Peace.

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