The republicans and the people who are following in the republican footsteps have indeed become a dangerous bunch who are following outdated and ignorant political rhetoric. This is not only dangerous to America, but to the rest of the world as the U.S. is the nation who sets precedence for the rest. Please America don´t let these people assume power. This is not the same crowd of the Reagan era. This has become a party of self serving fanatical zealots.

Although Obama´s price tag is not cheap it is necessary. Without the changes America is going to find itself in some very dire straights. Do the right thing and go along with this administration´s plans. Obama is no fool and knows what he is doing. If you want proof take this into consideration. He´s saved our banking system from total collapse for example. Bush and his crew were totally clueless in what to do and thank God they were nearly at the end their term when the crises first started. Give him a chance on health care and other issues and he´ll get the job done. And to republicans.. your leaders are shafting you big time!!!!!!

Thanks DOF.  I try to moderate my ranting so as not to be be so easily marginalized by others, but the last eight years have been particularly difficult in this regard.

I dunno, Neil – I was cheering when I read what you just wrote!  Whatever the exterior I am certainly not feeling “reasonable” on their asses these days.

Every time I see a post on here that I really want to comment on, DOF has already done a better job.  This isn’t the first time I’ve had this complaint about you, man…quit having similar opinions while being more eloquent and more reasonable than me, O.K?:)

  Well, anyway- I have to have a go.  I have a few questions for any Shitbaggers reading this…and they start with a simple one: 
  Where the hell have you been? 

  Where were all your grand, patriotic protests over the last eight years, while the real villians ass-raped this country again and again while providing nothing in return except jingoistic slogans for idiots to chant at each other?
 
  What were you so busy doing while Mr. Mass Murder slaughtered half a million people or more, spending trillions and driving this country into deeper debt than it has ever seen under ANY liberal or in all its history?  Were you too busy feeling all patriotic and satifying your impotent bloodlust?  Too busy lining the pockets of oil and arms dealers at the taxpayers’ expense?  Too busy ignoring the shredding of the fourth amendment, or helping to dismantle that horrible socialist public education system?  Too busy backing the stimulus plans and corporate welfare as planned by the Bush administration, just so you could turn around and bad mouth the brand new president for bothering to go ahead with them after the damage was already done?  Too busy lowering taxes even further for the most rich, ignoring the history of our most prosperous times?  Too busy watching the installation of the most reactionary supreme court in a century?  Too busy calling reasonable people “terrorist sympathisers,” “traitors” and “unAmerican?”  Too busy undermining the separation of church and state with the Office of Bullshit-Based Services?
 
  Where was all the outrage when all of this was actually happening?  Couldn’t be bothered to listen to a single economist outside the Bush administration or to demand accountability from anyone in charge then, could you?
 
  My favorite part of all this is the role of our so-called liberal press.  Over the first few years of the war(s), multitudes of Americans across the country protested the wars and the administration, to no avail.  Our corporate/military-whore-press would barely even cover groups of several thousands demanding peace and/or impeachment.  But now, small groups of dozens or maybe hundreds, egged on by the press and high-visibility republican party shills are treated as grass-roots hordes of angry freedom fighters.  The very people that caused and exploited all these messes are feeding you ignorant shitbaggers a giant dog turd, and you worthless motherfuckers are licking your lips and begging for more, aiming all your limp, pathetic outrage at liberals who have only had very shaky control of congress for two years, and a President who has barely had time to tie his boot laces and start trying to crawl out of this republican-made quagmire.  I can only hope that the parties are cathartic, and that soon you’ll all realize that you are the nauseating punchline to a sick fucking joke.

Ammunition’s gotten really scarce, makes me wish I’d stockpiled last year to sell some at inflated prices right now.

Of course there are gradations in political thinking, if the individual is thinking with their whole head.  Just about every problem or question an individual faces has a spectrum of possibilities and options.

Only our politicians (maximized to the extreme in the American binary system) require us to be “fer us or agin us!”

China might be on the other side of the table, but they’re playing with our money right now too. And in that I mean that at least until they adjust to fix it they’re currently no more or less screwed by the current economic crisis than anyone else.

Gregory, I’m sure there were a few Democrats at various Tea Parties. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least as there is a gradient in the political spectrum. That doesn’t change the fact that a lot of Republicans seem to have gone nuts since the election or that they make up the majority of the anti-Obama tea parties.

Good analogy.  It certainly is a gamble.  If it were me I would take me chances rather than go “all in” with China on the other side of the table.

Hopefully our economy does expand sufficiently in a short enough time frame to cover the debt.

It is a gamble, all right.  If our economy doesn’t expand, we’re badly screwed.  And by “we” I mean “the set of Americans including our great-grandchildren”.

I think of it as wrenching your shoulder to grab a rope and stop falling off a cliff.  Gonna hurt no matter what, but beats the alternative.  Hope that turns out correct.