I hope you dont mind me posting that link Les, if for some reason you do then by all means remove it; I’m not too web-savvy, so I dont know what kinds of effects posting links here has.

well, here you can get Olmifron, which is almost exactly the same, in that it metabolizes directly into provigil. 40 doses for thirty bucks.

Completely unregulated and unscheduled by the FDA and DEA, therefore completely legal.

http://www.biogenesis-antiaging.com/p7/Adrafinil-%28Olmifon%29/product_info.html

Order some and find out for yourself. I’m planning on getting some next month.

ADD has plagued me all my life, and I cant stand Adderall and the other “classic” stimulants.

I had thought of that, but I know medical personnel who take it to get through a really tough day (I know, they’re not supposed to) and they experience the same effect that I do, which is to simply be awake.

The price listed in the article also seems a little suspect, so I’m not entirely convinced that what he got was really Provigil.  It’s a pretty expensive drug, and insurance companies don’t like to cover it.  The price listed in the article was less than 30% of the usual price; granted online drugs are frequently cheaper, but that was an amazing discount.

Double blind dosing and cognitive testing would be interesting, but since the patent is wearing off soon, that’s not likely to happen.  Several nurses I know think that it will be an OTC shortly after the patent protection is gone.

Here’s the question though: Is it not having the same effect on you because it’s already compensating for whatever condition you’re taking it for? It certainly doesn’t seem to make narcoleptics any smarter, just more awake. Could this be an effect that it only has on people who don’t need it?

Not that I’m any more likely to take it after reading the side effects, but it’s an interesting question.

Having been prescribed Provigil for the last 30 months (it’s not just for narcolepsy anymore) all I can say from reading Johann Hari’s article is “placebo effect”.  Provigil just doesn’t work the way he described.  It’s not an instant anything; caffeine works a lot faster.  The things he wrote seem based more on his anticipation of how the drug should work, and not on how it works in real life.

I didn’t have the concentration to read the entire post.  Could someone summarize?

Ooh, Mini-Trucker Magazine… *shuffles off*

I can imagine it. Lab coat clad scientists call up a friend of theirs, “Hey, Jerry, you wanna pop some Provigil?” “Hell yeah, I’ll be right there.” They pop the provigils and work all night on making truly waste less and efficient cars.

I’ve found with Dexedrine that my ability to concentrate for protracted periods improved greatly. I could marathon program.

The problem is that, while lowering the threshold for engagement, it also lowered the threshold for stimulation, making increased anxiety a significant problem. I found it funny that many, or most, of the side effects in Dex are the effects of taking too much, and usually, the effects of excessive anxiety.

My concern would be in becoming addicted to Provigil to manage the gap between my abilities and my expectations in any given area. That shit seems like it would be nasty for underachievers in any area, in spite of it’s promise for a fast-and-easy escape.

MisterMook has it right, though; we’re best served by a lazy conscience on the matter, to begin with. If I could pay less attention to certain kinds of details, I totally would. Real life sucks, sometimes, and it’s important to regulate your doses. After all; it’s a gateway drug. Once you’re alive, imagine all the other stupid shit you’ll do

I’ve always wanted to take something that would no foolin’ trip me into a chemically induced depression for a while too actually, just so I could know what that felt like when the brain was firing it off on all cylinders, so to speak.

“I could suddenly concentrate on my life, and boy did it suck.”