Got the following missive today:
From: Angel Eyes browneye_cutiepie@yahoo.com
Subject: Oh my….. and you wonder why the world is in this kind of shape!I would never donate to your site….. talk about a scam!! What do you do with the money??? So you don’t believe in a heaven or hell or God! When you die I promise you will believe in it then…when you look into the eyes of your maker and get sent to hell to burn. FOREVER!! How can you not believe in God, do you have children Mr. Les??? Look at that miracle… I promise no man could have ever started life in the beginning! Think about it…. How did man first get put on this earth. Don’t say evolution because how did a monkey get here? I mean HELLO during caveman times the wheel was a big deal so you actually think something else could have created man! There must be a greater power. Are you serious or just stupid. Now grant it I am not a holy roller and I totally believe that the prayer rug with “Saint Matthew’s” is a scam, but God is not a scam and people that start scams like the prayer rug will be held accountable for their actions. So think about it Mr. Les. God bless you. Feel free to reply… I’m not afraid. Thanks… that’s all I have to say! Also, if you have children will be held accountable for the lives. Do you actually want them to be sent to Hell? To burn for eternity??
And here’s my reply:
- Angel Eyes,
Thanks for the email. It’ll make a great blog entry in my SEB Mailbag series of notes from nutcases. I appreciate you providing me with more fodder for my readers!
Cheers!
Les
Whatever the root cause, if he disappears I’m going to start looking on the web for headlines like “German Serial Killer Caught: Police Say Over 100 Bodies Found.” The whole thing really reminds me of a Charles Manson interview, minus several decades of talking to just himself.
Can you all say Podddafakinlotionindabasket.
Wow atheist are like born again Christians, never arguing on point just character attacks and using recycled excuses that fall flat. So unoriginal. Do you have to pay to be part of your cult?
You ask for proof of God? Is that a joke? Give me proof of atom smashing. But don’t give me a paper or some type recorded information. Atoms are like little whirling rainbow light and leprechauns that have nothing but energy? Yeah ok buddy? Prove it without using ancient or current documents. Prove it without a theory that when tested will come true as a future reaction and observation in the future. Prove it without using the any science principles as I have resoundly rejected science principles. I want to see the real building blocks of the atom with my own eyes or I will not believe you. After all you say prophecy is worthless as there is no proof that the future has anything to do with past events. You hopefully get that the preceding is sarcasm.
You have begun to be the type of people who sees a shadow on the ground and deny it exists.
You might even say a shadow does not exits for reasons that it has no matter, no weight, etc, People just made that up, shadows are myths.
You would go further and say a shadow is not proof that something is blocking the light and therefore you deny anything could ever block the light. All for your new religion cult athiesm.
You are not scientists at heart, just god deniers. The science is just a front as you resound reject any possibility. Not one of you took the opportunity to explore this completely new approach. All of you deny that any prophecy ever came true. You all assume the prophecies I talk about are the same that born agains talk about.
What a missed opportunity for you to either expose me as a nut bag crack monster as you claim or learn something which no one has ever offered you in your life.
Shadows can be cast by spiritual things too. If any possibility of a current observation is thow away, you are nut bag scientists.
Watch the world for the shadow of God and when you see it hover over your head, I suggest you change you storey and duck. If not, your choice to ignore the reality of your situation.
I hope someone got something out of it. I sure didn’t but then again I don’t need to..
I must say however the man in the funny hat with cooky sunglasses and scuffy beard is just who we all need to be taking advice from. As soon as you get your life straightened out dude, I will begin not make fun of you acting like your a pillar of great wisdom. Till then keep trying and keep selling it.
I bet you dont have the balls to let my lastpost go through. Insecurity is something you should work on.
Spam, what a joke.
Komosel. Please try to understand what we have been saying.
Quoting from a book does not make the character real. Yoda came up with some crackers, yet at the end of the day he still has Frank Oz’s hand up his back. Me- I’m a student of Mrs Cosmopolite, for is it not said “There’s nowt as queer as folk”.
Other Religeons have quotes and predictions from other Gods. What makes your’s “more real”? Someone asks you ‘Proof” and you respond with abible quote saying we must believe in quote. You could drop any fictional name in there.
Oddly enough, Komosel, I had just authorized it for posting and then I come to your laughable “you don’t have the balls comment”. Don’t push your luck, asshole. I’m more than happy to smack you with the ban hammer if you can’t behave yourself.
The spam filter is legit. I can’t help it if it thinks your bullshit diatribes aren’t worth posting. This is my house and my rules, if you don’t like it then there are plenty of other websites you can go spew your nonsense on.
It’s a false false positive. The spam filter did the right thing for the wrong reason.
Back at you pillar of great wisdom.
You started the disrespect, slap yourself.
Not even close to your level, tough guy.
Actually, you did. You were just too absent-minded to realize it.
Advice for next time you try to convert us heathens – be aware that a) we know most of the BS you’re trying to say and b) we’ve revealed it as BS probably several hundred times. I’m sure each of us has taken a turn on it. It’s old now, and we’re bored.
Still, kudos on the Jesus as The Punisher thing. Would be cool picturing him in black with a skull T.
Anyone else notice the following pattern:
Of course I’m paraphrasing the exampled argument, but the gist of it is in there.
Why must we continuously defend our side without the use of logic, reasoning and the facts to back them up, but their side can freely source the bible for the basis of any and/or all their arguments, regardless of our reasoning that it is lousy reference material to begin with?
“We get to argue our side with all our tools, but you have to do so without your tools, because we don’t like your tools!”
This… just doesn’t seem right to me.
What do you think their argument would be if we banned their use of the Bible in future debates?
Prove to me the existence of god without sourcing or quoting from the bible. Furthermore, if we remove your bible as a legitimate source of reference, does your god still exist? Essentially, if your one and only source is no longer considered valid source material, doesn’t that render your argument… sort of… moot?
Hi Komosel,
irgendwie tust du mir ein wenig leid. Vielleicht heitert dich ein schönes Lied auf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnMbrykzN5c
Religion ist etwas persönliches, behalte es doch einfach auch für dich.
GLG
FOOD FIGHT! FOOD FIGHT!
Cubelai, Komosel segelt unter falscher Flagge. Ausgerechnet der Deutschen
Na ja, immerhin ist ein Kommentar unter der richtigen Flagge reingestellt.
Les, EE’s IP-to-country mapping is really off at times. Somebody ought to post a bug report over there.
Now Komosel is going to try to dazzle us with his internet tough guy routine.
Words of wisdom, elwed. Just as spam filters sometimes do the right thing for the wrong reason, we fallible humans also, sometimes, do the right things for the wrong reasons. But in what sense are the reasons “wrong” then?
Lustigerweise, segelt der Komosel heute unter einer vielleicht passenderen Flagge- der Israelischen.
Cubelei- I liked the song you linked to, but I wouldn’t say that it was “cheerful”. If you want something aufheiternd, try this touching performance from Mr Bean.
You got it, leguru. While internet food fights do have the advantage that it’s easier to clean up afterwards, they do lack the haptic pleasure of smooshed comestibles.
C’mon, Tim, you know the answer: faith obviates the need for logic, and trumps it, because God approves of it. Besides, it saves wear and tear on the brains of the believers, and keeps them safe from Satan’s clutches. As Martin Luther said, reason is a tool of the Devil.
Ok, thanks for the hint. I don’t care if he claims to be from Germany. A lot of lobotomized people running around here.
It was sort of irony letting me choose this song. I thought the refrain matched quite well.
I love Blumfeld, the music itself is cheerful but listening to the lyrics often feels like receiving a punch to the stomach.
But for Komo Scooter would probably have been the better choice..
Cubelai, it’s the software running this site that picks the flag based on the IP number, not the user. In recent months, EE’s IP to country mapping has gotten weird. Then again, I don’t believe either the “IP to Nation” module nor its database have been updated, ever—which means the aforementioned mapping has always been buggy and it just now starts to show.
Yeah, I’ve been noticing that the IP to country mod has been a little off kilter lately. I’m debating removing it altogether.
And here I thought all the lobotomized Germans were running around here in Vienna… But I’m drinking a beer now, and as I always say, I’d rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.
Yet another pearl of wisdom from elwed, which is also meaningful im übertragenen Sinne. I, too, often feel as though my mapping of the world has always been buggy, and just now it’s starting to show. But maybe it always showed, and people used to be too polite to mention it…
Les- don’t remove the little flags. When they’re not informative, they’re entertaining, sort of like religion: you can read whatever you want into them.
It appears that the EE folks update the database using data from ip2nation.com every so often, but simply uploading the new module isn’t enough to set things right. I needed to actually select the module from the control panel for it to update the internal database:
I’ve done that and it appears to be working a little better now. The last update to the module was from September 25, 2007 though whereas the latest from the ip2nation folks is May 11, 2008. So it may still be a little wonky here and there.
Hehe. Now EE has me pegged as Swedish. Mind you, I’d love to visit Scandinavia, but the flag alone is not enough…
Les, thanks for the info. A stealth update, eh.
If I can find the time, I’ll write a plugin to let a user select their “home flag” in addition to the one based on the IP number.
elwed- can you program a mixture of two flags for me- perhaps a red and white striped Californian Grizzly Bear? Thanks.
Zilch, please don’t mistake me for a graphical artist
Patnes: You already have gothic. People who dress in gothic have been known to shoot many people and mix crosses with skulls. Gothic is from ostrigoth and visgoth, the cannonizers of church law.
You also have a church ritual where they ask God to accept bread an wine as the body and flesh of supposedly God’s son. Lets assume you don’t deny God, and lets say God does accept their symbolism. Then they are the guilty of cannablism?
Cubelai, I dont see how that song applies and I agree it is depressing as a punch in the stomach.
Sounds like this dawin believer guy singing is about to jump out a window. Oh if he only had a real God to give him his dreams rather than take them away. (you left it open for that)LOL
Chorus:
The gods are corrupt
life is not fair,
the sky is broken,
the dreams are empty.
The truth is often painful,
and Darwin was awesome,
but as I see it,
it is not unimportant.
By the way, I did not come here to convert. I happened upon an article post about a religious man (TrueBeliever™) shooting. I then pointed out that Jesus stated he came to punish, not save and bring peace.
Thats when the debate started fire as I was treated like a Jesus freak. I am not pro Jesus.
I was playing on words when you referred to Jesus as The Punisher. That you actually tried to make an argumentative statement from that shows how astonishingly desperate you are.
I don’t know what associations Goths have over there, but over here goths are, if anything, less likely to shoot anyone else and more likely to shoot themselves. All of the goths I know are expressly non-violent except for episodes of masochism.
You’re making a mistake here; it’s canon, not cannon. The church has been using the cannon to spread the canon ever since the cannon was invented. Clear? (with all due respect to whoever I’m paraphrasing; I’m too lazy to hunt it down)
Communion. Uh, if it’s not actually a human being they’re eating, then no, it’s not cannibalism. On the other hand, if they think it’s a human being they’re eating and they’re encouraged to eat it under that pretense, then they are encouraging cannibalism at least in the symbolic sense.
Far be it from me to say that Christianity is kooky. Oh, wait, never mind.
One last stirring of the pile before I cut and run.
Atoms are whirling energy that is invisible on the micro level.
God is invisible, as he states no form does him justice. (I hear people wincing already, but bear with me)
Pagans are people who want to give God form.
As science believers who accept the fact that atoms are whirling invisible energies powered by an unknown force and that this force is responsible for building this world.
The fact that science based individuals want visible proof of the creator of the atom (the energy that whirls the invisible), seems like they are still influenced by residuals of pagan thinking that they must hold this source in their hands. The world is built by the invisible and we know it.
Lastly, the atom electrons, nucleolus, etc. have never been seen. Only the effects have been seen, indirect observation. We accept the explanation because someone wrote it and handed it down to us.
We accept that their precepts are correct but we never tested them.
So in the same light, we could take the prophecies of Moses of the Old testament which are in forward looking statements and check that they have occurred and that the events of today maintain themselves within the guidelines as stated. By indirect observation, much as we do with atoms, we can see the negative (shadow of the curses) behavior of God and thus prove or disprove he exists. If his the shadow moves random and covers a broad sample of normal probabilities, we can say there is not proof. But if the distribution is inconsistently distributed according to what Moses stated, we must assume there is legitimacy to the theory Moses presents.
If any of the rules and guidelines are violated, then the experiment based on the Moses theory is invalid.
For example, a Judeo/Christian person who is part of the experiment bound by the bible, must be the test subject. If that descendant takes on another god, the more they adhere and believe in the false God, the more cursed they should be and conversly. If murder profiles include people who believe they are Jesus, they should have an representative distribution of people claiming they are Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Ever hear of Jerusalem syndrome? This should effect an equal percentage of visitor volume for those coming to Israel. As more Jews make visits, the syndrome should have a greater sample of Jews affected than Christians.
You get my point. Be open minded and test the theories not with blind faith but logic and Moses’ theories. Indirect observation of the invisible force, as you would the invisible atom. You want proof, you say.
Research the truth logically. I speak specifically of the book of Deuteronomy. Other books cannot be validated as being from a truthful prophet, as Moses delivered that book before he died.
There are no prophets or books that can be proved afterwards and before he died he said the issue was closed no adding or subtracting, thus books written afterwards are not likely to be valid.
You can use google news alerts to recieve and follow up on weird events (sub human behavior) that make the news. Usually a day or two later they will tell you about the weirdo arrested and their affilitations. Tally the distribution and see God talk through his dark actions. Remeber, Jesus represents himself as Gods punisher bringing division and brother delivering brother to death you know all the other characters. So these are the lines that should be adhered to in watching for the curses. Evil targets evil. Curse go to the third and fouth generations, so look at the parents, such as authoring books like, My Christian Failings.
Josh=Komosel
I don’t know how, but I guessed that. I must be a prophet…
Angel Eyes- what do you say about Komosel/Josh? I loves me some Christian infighting…
Holy batshit Fatman! Haven’t you run out of steam yet?
Someone should explain to him about the Scientific Method, and predictive models and the rest of it, if it wouldn’t be a complete waste of time.
Don’t run him off yet, I’ve got a bet with the guys at the office as to how long before we hear of this guy on the news.
Almost.
But Darwin was really not the subject of the song. Life itself as it is today is the subject. And the fist hits me not because its depressing but because it is true.
the truth is often painful
this might sound trivial
but as I see it
its not meaningless
what you understood to be anythig about Darwin was “Das klingt vielleicht banal”
Cubelai:
For many but not for everyone.
I for one think one God is not corrupt but belief in gods is
Life is precisly fair.
The earth (man) is broken but the sky is not.
Dreams are fullfilled but not if you dont study for the test
The truth is only painful at first and pleasing there after.
The belief in Dawin is awe inspiring (in that it is self depricating yet people chose to believe it)
but as I see it
its not meaningless
Well my statement was more on the work of Blumfeld in complete.
With this song you are making the mistake in taking the words way too literally.
And no, Darwin still is not mentioned.
Maybe you should try out tocotronic and start with them. They are somehow like Blumfeld for beginners.
Pato2747, (When in doubt, cut and paste
)
Now I am motivated to buy a laminator. I am going to have a card!
Hey Justice- I’d like one of those cards myself! If you do them, could you mail me one?
1.- Big Bang
2.- Formation of Stars
3.- Formation of the Solar System
4.- Formation of Earth, together with the Solar System.
5.- Creation of complex molecules
6.- Eventual and slow creation of the first cell
6.- Evolution
7.- Apes
8.- Evolution
9.- Humans
10. Humans die of global warming
11.- Crocodiles again
12. – Crocodiles eat each other
13.- Plants rule again
14.- Stars slowly burn down dimming the life giving sunlight
15. Plants start to die out
16. – Single cell oganizim declares he is the king messiah once more
13. – Solar systems continue to fragment turning to space dust
14. – Stars burn out completely
15. – No one can find a match in the dark to light the next bing bang – End of story
Sorry about the numbering. Consider it a either a problem with the time space contimuim or a brain fart.
Whichever you can scientifically prove.
Hey Komosel- at least you have a sense of humor. Run with it.
If you you stated God told you and he really did you would be a prophet, but since you said you guessed that, no prize.
Are you sure?
Maybe it got cut from the distributed version. I didn’t invent it, I only translated from this link: Tics
See this site on the lyrics:
Komosel- So only the people who claim divine inspiration for their correct predictions get the prize? That hardly seems fair: we unaided mortals have a much harder time making predictions than those who happen to be lucky enough to get the word from God…
The site you apparently got “und Darwin war genial” from is in error: I listened to the song, and the lyrics at this point are, as Cubelai said, “das klingt vielleicht banal”, or “this might sound banal/trivial”. Next time, trust a native speaker about the meaning of texts, and not some website. Not that it matters- Darwin was a genius.
That might be the point. They don’t sing it. Not in the video and not in the version i have on itunes.
They change the line twice at the end of the song “das klingt vielleicht brutal” and “und all das ist normal”. Why the site puts “Darwin war genial” i can’t tell.
Cubelai- I listened to the song all the way through and you’re quite right about the text, of course. And it beats me too how anyone could hear “Darwin” in there. Wishful thinking perhaps.