Hate By State

The Southern Poverty Law Center has provided an Intelligence Project that pinpoints, state by state, hate groups in the US and the numbers surprised me. Certainly the Deep South is known for it’s Klan and Neo-Nazi groups, but nearly every state seems to have at least a few formal organizations. Check out how many are in your area. You may be surprised too.

I realize I’ve made it much easier for Moloch to locate like-minded individuals (or is that slack-minded individuals) but it’s important for the rest of us to know who’s out there too.


48 thoughts on “Hate By State

  1. Only 19 in New York, and none are near where I live.  I do like that they include all hate groups, not just the typical KKK, Neo-Nazi and black separatists.  Not sure about the Jewish Defense League though.  Maybe I’ve got them confused with a more benign organization.  I took a quick look at their website and they appear to be a group dedicated to ensuring the memory of the Holocaust and outing Nazis and such.  I guess that could be taken too far and end up being just as bad too…

  2. I think its interesting how the supposed bastion of free will and thought, i.e. California, is the state with the largest number of hate groups. I’m assuming this number is related to the high number of skin heads in and around Long Beach, but I could be wrong. Granted, Texas isn’t much better with whopping 43, but still. As for the SPLC, well, I support their work and I’m glad they include the more obscure groups. A favorite of mine happens to be the Nation of Islam. I’ve often heard talk of such horrible crimes as the Jasper Lynchings, or the Mathew Sheppard case, but there’s rarely ever a mention of the Zebra Killings or the Colin Ferguson incident in Long Island. These were incidents which the media should have jumped on and did to a certain extent. The Colin Ferguson incident was overshadowed by the O.J. Simpson trial and the Zebra Killings, well, the Zebra Killings were news when they happened but afterward they sort of faded into obscurity.

  3. I guess IL has more problems than I thought.  And to think I even have a neo-nazi group in my home town.  I am kinda surprised I never heard of them before.

    Not sure about the Jewish Defense League though.  Maybe I’ve got them confused with a more benign organization.  I took a quick look at their website and they appear to be a group dedicated to ensuring the memory of the Holocaust and outing Nazis and such.  I guess that could be taken too far and end up being just as bad too…

    Maybe they just use that statement about remembering the Holocaust as a cover for their real batshit crazy beliefs.  Not sure, but just a guess.

  4. Neodromos: I think its interesting how the supposed bastion of free will and thought, i.e. California, is the state with the largest number of hate groups.

    Well, given that California has the largest population of all the states, it’s no small wonder that we would have the most of any group of people.

    What surprises me is that there are only eight such groups in Kansas.

  5. I think its interesting how the supposed bastion of free will and thought, i.e. California, is the state with the largest number of hate groups. I’m assuming this number is related to the high number of skin heads in and around Long Beach, but I could be wrong.

    Well, the skinhead factor has something to do with it, but there’s also quite a few groups who (like Texas, I’d assume) are on the list because they’re anti-immigrant (read “anti-Mexican”).

    As someone who’s been outing it as such to anyone who’ll listen for over 20 years now, I can’t tell you how elated I am to see Lou Sheldon’s Traditional Values Coalition on the list, being called the hate group it clearly is.

    In light of the number of “megachurches” and fundy media networks that have started, taken root and grown here (especially in conservative Orange County), I suppose it’s really not all that surprising that there are so many hate groups… one seems to go hand in hand with the other.

    It appears that all good Christians should ask and answer the truly important question: “Who would Jesus hate?” Then they’ll receive a miraculous revelation, and join the appropriate group of like-minded people delusional psychotics.

  6. From wikipedia:

    The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a militant Jewish organization whose purported goal is to protect Jewish people and property from anti-Semitism. The FBI considers the organization to be a “right-wing terrorist group.” [1] Mainstream Jewish groups oppose the JDL in some form, and do not associate.

  7. Perhaps you could consider this web site a hate group for so much anti-Christian talk? Hypocrites…

  8. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t seem to remember reading how Les wanted to blow someone up, or wanted to attack a nation with violence because of their beliefs… hmmm

  9. Perhaps you could consider this web site a hate group for so much anti-Christian talk? Hypocrites…

    Well when you consider that groups like the Aryan Nation, KKK, do what they do in the name of religion, and are by majority Christian affiliated, I can see why you would think that. I am not saying all Christians are whacked, but the seed is planted when people choose to turn their complete will and thinking over to another person. Lemmings do that, they are a small rodent that over populates itself. They blindly follow each other off of ledges near the sea, and drowned themselves.

  10. My cousin who spent quite a bit of time in CA named his daughter Aryana. I’ll let you all figure that one out. I think it’s sick. I had an old school mate that moved near camp LeJeune

  11. and a black man would be spit on if he didn’t hold a door. After telling someone she didn’t believe in a god, my daughter was beaten and her hair pulled out all while little christians sang jesus loves you. I don’t believe in god. I am an atheist. I would not treat another human the way my daughter was treated because of what they believed in. I do NOT appreciate the fact that I was included in the assumption that Atheists are hate mongors. But hey, there’s an ass in every assumption. I may not understand their religion at times but I’m not going to beat the crap out of them for it.

  12. Denver      
    ·Nation of Islam
    ·National Socialist Movement
    ·National Vanguard

    Colorado Springs
    ·Family Research Institute
    ·National Socialist Movement

    Laporte      
    · Scriptures for America- Christian Identity

    Louisville    
    ·League of the South

    Mancos      
    ·Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints

    Olathe      
    ·National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

    Wheat Ridge      
    ·MSR Productions

    I’m so proud of my state.  cheese

    Sorry for posting so late, I have been away for the holiday.

  13. KPG: Most hate groups advocate violence against there targets, so, no.

    Poking fun at weird beliefs is not a form of hate – it’s just fun poking weird beliefs.
    It’s such a pity that most don’t condone freedom.

  14. Michigan’s tally of 25 groups is depressing, but not entirely surprising. We were in the news quite a bit thanks to Timothy McVeigh’s connection with our own local rednecks known as the Michigan Militia.

    Still, it’s better to know they’re there than not to.

  15. So Cal here! You know, the ones that scare me the most are the groups with the innocuous names like the group near me American Patrol/Voice of Citizens Together. Then there’s my favorite of all the California group names White Devil Industries about 40 minutes away in my old stomping grounds, Ventura.

    On the other hand, I have family in North Dakota and it surprises me that they have 0. I guess hate doesn’t like the cold weather much.

  16. KPatrickGlover –
    Doh! Wikipedia has been my best source for semi-reliable information for a long while, I don’t know why I didn’t look up the JDL there. 

    Anyway, I think I was somehow confusing them with the Jewish Law Institute for some odd reason.  The JDL website had a headline that basically equated to “Why we are not a terrorist organization” that should have tipped me off right quick.

  17. The JDL, while violent and general a force of bad in the world, is *not* actually a terrorist org, at least by American standards.  There’s even a whole Executive Order (#13224) describing the process:

    http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/16181.htm

    I fail to find the JDL on the State Dept’s list of terrorist org’s.  Maybe i (or they) are missing something?

  18. And…

    The “Jewish Law Institute” is *not* a terrorist org.  Please get your facts correct before falsely smearing reputations.

  19. rob;  That order seems to give the State Dept the ability to designate organization as being terrorist organizations so that we can be at war with them.  The State Dept generally deals with international matters and I believe that the JDL is homegrown.  Does that exec order say that the FBI cannot designate an organization to be a terrorist organization? 

    Who said that the Jewish Law Institute is a terrorist org?

  20. rob adams wrote:
    The “Jewish Law Institute” is *not* a terrorist org.  Please get your facts correct before falsely smearing reputations.

    Ok, maybe you should re-read what I said about the Jewish Law Institute:

    Anyway, I think I was somehow confusing them with the Jewish Law Institute for some odd reason.

    In relation to what I previously said about the JDL:

    Not sure about the Jewish Defense League though.  Maybe I’ve got them confused with a more benign organization.

    I appreciate you trying to off-handedly call me an asshole and an idiot, but if you read all my comments in context, maybe you’d see that I was not smearing the Jewish Law Institute, just stating that I was a little confused about why the JDL was on the list of hate groups, and then reiterating that I had confused them with the completely benign Jewish Law Institute. ok, I didn’t state the JLI was completely benign, maybe that was too subtle?

  21. Ha!  Alabama has fewer hate groups than Pennsylvania!  While I’d rather not compare my home state with PA on infant mortality, TB base rate, or illiteracy – at least there’s something that we can be proud of.

    Roll Tide!

  22. Wow, seems hate is everywhere in the USA…In Holland the fear and hatemongering are gaining popularity lately. Hate might be universal….

  23. Greebo{ Wow, seems hate is everywhere in the USA…In Holland the fear and hatemongering are gaining popularity lately. Hate might be universal.

    I think that most of the hate groups in the US consider themselves to be doing something that is ordained by their god.

  24. Alabama has fewer hate groups than Pennsylvania

    Of course you could look at it from the point of view Nazi Germany only had one hate group (ok probably not true, but you see where I’m going with this). Perhaps Alabama is just better organised.

  25. Greebo: In Holland the fear and hatemongering are gaining popularity lately. Hate might be universal….

    It’s easier (lazier) than understanding and compromise.
    I’m a Netherlands (ND) born Australian.
    Talking with my little Jewish godmother at lunch today and she was recalling when we all arrived in Oz in the 50s integration and acceptance of, and being accepted into, the Oz culture was of primary importance.
    The economic migrants these days don’t seem to consider fitting into the new country – they want to transport their old culture and be accepted, unchanged, rather than accepting change.
    I have a problem with that attitude.

    Yesterday my father mentioned that for the first time in quite a few decades ND may have a right wing dominated government coalition and they may ban the burkas and similar garments in public places – we both agreed that wouldn’t be a bad thing but, I added, the Christian Democrats may push their xian ideals and ND may become not as tolerant as it is been known to be.
    That would be a shame; historically the Dutch have been a leading light of tolerance – they even took The Pilgrims in before they went off to Columbia.

    LH: Perhaps Alabama is just better organised.

    Yeah, it’s the numbers in the groups, not the numbers of the groups.
    A false sense of security is dangerous.  wink

  26. Here the bias isnot inspired by peoples religion but by fear of te islam. Some people want to kick every muslim out of the country, thinking that all muslims are terrorists. Some politicians used this fear last election. One in particular. He won 9 of the 150 seats in our parliament with one single point: kick muslims out. 2 months ago the polls redicted a more liberal coalition. The right wing parties started at tat time with more warnings about the future filled with muslim terror. People believed it obviously. The reason why they did is still beyond me.

  27. It’s easy enough to hate another group when that group expouses the destruction of all you hold as important.  The muslim religion professes to make you free by controlling your every thought and action.  No wonder a liberal democratic state like denmark is a bit afraid.

  28. I believe that the religious teachings of the muslim fundamentalists are incompatible with democracy.  The teachings of the christian fundamentalists are also incompatible with democracy.  The only differences between fundamentalist muslims and christians are the methods that each group uses to gain control and which prophet they profess to follow.

  29. So Cal here! You know, the ones that scare me the most are the groups with the innocuous names like the group near me American Patrol/Voice of Citizens Together. Then there’s my favorite of all the California group names White Devil Industries about 40 minutes away in my old stomping grounds, Ventura.

    Sounds like you & I are very close neighbors, Brooks!  And I agree about the scariest groups being the ones with innocuous-sounding names. The Minutemen come to mind right off… I think the large number of groups here is probably related to the anti-immigrant (especially Mexican) sentiment.

    Stupid fucking people.  I wouldn’t want to live in a California without Mexicans (and other Latin Americans); because it just wouldn’t BE California without them! The haters can spew their filth all they like but the fact is, Mexicans have made, and continue to make, this state this great state what it is.

  30. Very good point Les about hate groups being defined by advocacy for violence.  I have seen definitions that include practically any negative statement about a group as hate – that way lies the end of free speech.  It would be worth nailing down a solid generally accepted definition of “hate group”.

    Here in Bloomington/Normal, Illinois there is a building that is currently the corporate headquarters of a vaccuum cleaner company.  Every year one or more guys in Nazi uniform stands vigil in front of the building for one day.  See, that building used to be a hospital – a Mennonite hospital in fact – and the founder of the American Nazi Party was born there.  Local people just ignore them.

    Not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

  31. DOF, I believe that was KPG that made that distinction, though I do agree with it.

    Hate is indeed universal and it’s not an entirely useless emotion, though it is often the most misplaced and misused.

    I probably opened a big can o’worms with that statement. grin

  32. Les: I believe that was KPG that made that distinction

    Oops – right.  Apparently my morning sacrament of caffeine has not brought enlightnment yet today.  sorry KPG. confused

    Wiki defines a ‘hate group’

    “A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates hate, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, or other sector of society, or that supports and publishes assertions and argumentation characteristic of hate groups without necessarily explicitly advocating such hate or violence that otherwise characterize hate groups. The term “hate group” is not used by these groups themselves, but rather by those who oppose them, and sometimes by sociologists or historians who study them. Many groups described this way disagree with the term as misconstruing their motives or goals.”

    By this definition you could be a ‘hate group’ by calling another group a ‘hate group’.  Can anyone improve on it?

  33. Where are you OB? I’m in Chatsworth.

    OB said:
    Stupid fucking people.  I wouldn’t want to live in a California without Mexicans (and other Latin Americans); because it just wouldn’t BE California without them! The haters can spew their filth all they like but the fact is, Mexicans have made, and continue to make, this state this great state what it is.

    Ha! This reminds me of the great quote repeated in the trailer for the new movie Bobby.

    “We didn’t cross the border. The border crossed us!”

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/bobby/trailer1/

  34. I always knew that socialists were hard hearted bastards.  Know the evidence is in: redistributionists are more likely to be racist tightwads.  See study.

  35. Interesting, since I live in South Carolina, you would think I would see more activity from these so called hate groups.  Wonder why the PTA isn’t among these groups? Talk about hate. Another pure BS list made up by someone with their own hate agenda.

  36. Where are you OB? I’m in Chatsworth.

    Porn City USA! I know lots of people who work and live there; and even worked there myself for a few months earlier this year. Heh.

    I’m in North Hollywood; not far from you at all!  We should meet up and raise a few glasses to Les and SEB one day soon. grin

  37. I have a hard time believing that New Mexico, being a border state has zero racist organizations.  I’m happy to see though that the Midwest has a lot less racist organizations than any of the other regions of the country.  It’s interesting and encouraging how racism has been a topic on this site a few times recently.

  38. Funny no one talks of the USS Liberty, or the thousands of crimes(rape,murder,robbery) blacks commit on whites. Why arent those HATE crimes, If a white person was to commit even a much lesser crime on another race its a hate crime! i.e. the kids that just poured gasoline on that poor kid in florida ,and burnt him, ???no hate crime there!! Whites will be the minority soon enough, but they will get no special treatment that the minorities get now.
    White Guilt is dead !! And they are sick of having to tolerate other peoples customs, when their not allowed to enjoy there own, like hangin an American flag!!

  39. From http://www.fbi.gov:

    A hate crime, also known as a bias crime, is a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society that is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin.

    Yup WoodPride you are right, no chance that a black man attacking a white man out of a bias against his race would ever be considered a hate crime.  Of course, you don’t see a whole hell of a lot of black people lynching white people, even nowadays, but I suppose you might live in a really bad part of the country perhaps? 

    Whoo hoo, you sure do! Fuck me, you can’t even hang up an American flag (I assume by “American Flag” you mean “Confederate Flag”).  Oh that really is a terrible part of the country.

    A word to the wise though WoodPride.  Assuming you ain’t just some 13 year old troll or redneck hick that just figgered out the interwebs, if you’re gonna make such sweeping claims around here, it’s a really good idea to back up your claims with some…oh I don’t know…evidence?  A freakin’ hyperlink to the Drudge Report is better than what you present, though probably no more accurate.  Good luck with that ignorance thing in any event.  Let us all know how it works out for ya boss!

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