Hmmm, let’s see: Under Clinton we had a budget surplus by the time he left office. Under Bush we had an all-time record budget deficit when he left. Now Obama has to clean up the Republican’s mess.

But I’ll bite, Chris. What’s this big picture we’re supposedly not seeing? And in what way have things gotten worse since Bush drove the economy into the ground?

Wow… I just read some of the threads on this page starting way back in 2005. Now it’s April 2011 and a lot has changed since then…. Yes, I’m an American. But I still agree Bill Clinton was one of the worst presidents the U.S. has ever had! Obama (supposed king of change) hasn’t done a damn thing for this country! Things have only gotten worse!!! I would take George W. Bush back in a heart beat! Those who love Clinton and Obama just don’t see the “big picture”!

Tabris, I haven’t seen anything that would indicate it’s a joke. The reviews I’ve seen seem to think it was done in all seriousness. There’s nothing on their website to indicate it’s a satire.

One bit of good news, it doesn’t look like they got past 4 issues and the site hasn’t been updated since 2006.

Uh…you people do realize that it’s a joke, right? Or at least I hope it is. I sincerely hope no one expects me or anyone else to learn valuable moral lessons from a biomech Sean Hannity.

Now, a psychic time traveling Rachel Maddow, on the other hand…

-Tabris

Funny thing about this thread… the opposing sides of the current discussion BOTH have valid points. Somehow. Ehem.

The points just don’t quite match up.

Cheers!

cant wait to read it!

Mr Iolite,

Let’s have a fruitful discussion without finding fault with each other for their views.

As far as sikhs are concerned , I want to state the following :

Sikhs in India are a very prosperous community in this country .The fact that Sikhs are being treated unfairly as propogated by some individuals or organizations is a blatent lie.Those propogating this lie are Sikhs settled in US or Canada for last 100 years or more , who have very little knowledge about present conditions in India.

They migrated to Canada during British Rule .

It is true that there were some anti Sikh riots in Northern India about 21 years ago ( 1984 ) but it was committed by some criminal tribes settled in Delhi & elsewhere ( propably Gujjars ) .

But It’s a long , long time ago.

There is a disinformation campaign by some vested interests in the Sikh Community to divide the Hindus & Sikhs .There is also a strong suspicion that these Groups are funded by Pakistan Secret Agency ISI.

The present Indian Prime Minister Mr Manmohan Singh is a Sikh , hailing from the same minority sikh Community. This speaks for itself . In India , the post of the Prime Minister is the most powerful post.

A lot of Hindus believe that Sikhs are just like their brothers since Sikhism is a offshoot of Hinduism , just like Buddhism & Jainism. A lot of Sikhs marry Hindus & a lot of Hindus marry Sikhs as well.

But the same Sikhs Community faced enormous violence from Islamic Rulers , who ruled this country once .Two of their Religious Teachers were tortured to death by the same Islamic fundamentalists , trying to force them to convert to Islam.

They HATE the Muslims as much as Hindus do…So we do have a lot of communal voilence.

Thanks…

This message is to Mr Iolite

I am sorry for some comments posted by me on this website.Please forgive me.Those comments were unparliamentary.

I could not take your comments about India being attacked by US . It makes no sense at all,since this country has not attacked US interets anywhere in the world .It is a peaceful country.

This really annoyed me no end.

Thanks

I think you are a Democrat Liberal , you cannot stand President George W Bush inspite of the fact that he represents the best interests of your country.

Forgive me for my personal opinion , you need to get a rectal Job done by some republicans living in your country , it will help you feel better about your President George W Bush.

As far as America INVADING India , here are some FACTS.

Under George W Bush , India & US are more closer than EVER. ( especially under your impotent Bill Clinton). We are all greateful to Our Dear President George W Bush for being so NICE to our Country.

We all love Condelizza Rice very much , who did a great job in bringing US & India closer .

At the moment India & US share a lot of strategic Interests . By the way , US has offered India enriched Uranium fuel for Indian Nuclear power plants for Tarapur , Kota & Kalpakkam ,knowing fully well India is not a signitary of NPT ( Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty ). This is all without any preconditions.

A lot of democrat Congressmen raised their objections but the deal went through smoothly.

Iran & Pakistan is very sore about this deal which they say is an example of double standards when it comes to US foreign policy.

All this , while Iran by the way is a signitory to NPT , which India is NOT ( & a nuclear weapons state ).

Moreover…

We Indians have the second largest pool of Scientific & Technical manpower in the world ( next only to US ).So your corporations love to get their tech jobs done here .

Your country needs us Indians & Chinese ( may be East Europeans as well ) to work in your various scientific & Technical Departments.Since we are so good at Science & Technology.

Many of the Scientists working in NASA are of Indian origin ( 30 % ).Silicon Valley in California is dominated by the Indians. They occupy a good percentage of Science & tech Departments in US . Many professors in elite US universities eg Stanford are from India.

An estimated 3 million Indians reside in US ,Indian-Americans occupy senior positions at many of America’s top technology firms, such as Sun Microsystems, Cisco, and Hughes Network Systems. United Airlines and USAir are headed by Indian-Americans.They are among the most highly educated people in your country & also the most productive.

Indian Americans have the highest per capita income in United States ,of $17,777.00 for this community, as compared with a national per capita income of $14,143.00 .They are most prevalent in the fields of science and technology. Indian-Americans are also very involved in academia. Over five thousand Indian-American faculty members are teaching at various universities around the nation.Indian-Americans have also become successful entrepreneurs, and many of the hotels and motels in the United States are owned by Indian Americans. These entrepreneurs have established an organization, the Asian American Hotel Owners Association, (AAHOA) to further their business goals through contact and cooperation with others. AAHOA has over four thousand members, and together these people own over fifty percent of the economy in the lodging sector, with approximately 640,000 rooms. In all, they own around 12,500 hotels, with a total market value of their properties estimated at $31 BIllion

Furthermore, 500,000 Indian-American medical doctors are practicing in the United States today.These physicians have organized themselves through the American Association of Physicians from India (AAPI), a powerful grouping that enables them to better promote their interests, and have opened up a full time legislative office in Washington, D. C.

Your Democratic Presidents go more than arm’s length wooing Indian American Community not only for their support but also for fund raising. They literally beg the Indian Americans to fund their campaigns ( especially Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton).

Considering the size of the population and income figures, it is estimated that the annual buying power of Indian-Americans in the United States is around
twenty billion dollars annually7 .

FINALLY…..

India is no pushover , like Iraq or Afghanistan . It’s a large country like China . It accounts of 16 percent of the world population. Most importantly , it’s a nuclear weapons State just like China. It also has quite a few ICBMs ( Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) , just like China. It also has a space programme just like US or Russia , & it launches its own satellites in Space.It also has a large Pharmaceutical Industry & it is the world leader in Information Technology. All US software giants like Microsoft , Oracle , IBM ,…etc produce their software in this country ( remember Bangalore ).This also includes Chinese Giants like Huweii Technologies.

US may never dare to invade either of both these countries since they are not WEAK.

For People like you …..

So Hell with Shitty Democratic Liberals like you.We will never need to fear any president if any elected by you , since they will most be a Hillary Clinton or Chelesea Clinton.

With Democratic Liberals like you , Osama Bin Laden will be having a Good time bombing your country.In fact he will find a great friend in people like you.

That’s why I said , democrat liberals like you must be chased out of United States by republicans.

So my advice to you is to ensure that next time around ensure that no republican President ever gets elected if you people have the balls.

As for your seconf response, I can understand your bafflement at continuing Muslim violence, but what has a war in Kashmir got to do with invading a sovereign nation?  You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that actually condones or seeks to justify anti-Hindu violence.  Also, just because I don’t agree with Islamic followers assaulting other faiths doesn’t mean I agree every single Muslim on the face of the planet should be wiped out. While we’re discussing religion in India, tell me—how are the Hindus treating the Sihks?