IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH

[Editor’s Note: I’m posting this on the basis of it being an excellent bad example of the the sort of post you might want to think twice about before submitting to SEB and also as a reminder of the importance in taking your medication every day when the nice men in the white lab coats give it to you. As an example of someone who is overly credulous it is beyond compare. I sincerely hope the author was trying to be satirical, but somehow I fear that this was written in all sincerity. A frightening thought indeed.]


I know there are people in this world who do not believe in the paranormal.  I personally always had a interest in it . I had a experience with this and it has totally changed my life.  Guess what it was for the good.  It has made me so much closer to god.  I have spirits with me all the time.  There in my home there everywhere I go.
Sometimes I see them, hear, feel there prescence, smells.  They are here.  I have over 50 pictures to prove it.  I was told I had some physcic abilities and that I just didn’t know how to use them.  This is some of them.  I just recently found out I could communicate with them through what is called channel writing.  I never thought anything like this would happen to me but it has.
I have been writing poems on the paranormal ever since this has happened and most of them have been published.  I have never
been able to write poetry before in my life.  I believe this has been for a reason.  There are more spirits in this world than there are people.  So there is life after death and we can communicate with them.    I just want to say GOD BLESS THEM ALL!  This has been going on now for about 2 years.
                                         
Rose M. Wise

517 comments to IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH

  • LMAO!

    Awww, did she take her toys and run home? What a shame.

    Oh man, I just spent the last ten minutes laughing my ass off! I’m growing particularly fond of reading any comments left by KPatrickGlover as they’re just killing me.

    Why, thank you, Les. I’m glad I could liven your evening up.

    This thread is a keeper so that anytime someone does a Google search for “Rose M. Wise

  • This is not a mental issue
    This is a true happening

    I had a friend with schizophrenia.  He stabbed his grandmother to death because he believed that she was part of a conspiracy to undermine the passage of time.  He thought it wasn’t a mental issue either.  He was and, according to his brother, still is convinced that he’s right and that she was trying to destroy the universe.

    So I guess all of us who have had paranormal experiences are crazy.

    Nope, I don’t think that at all.  I don’t even think that you’re crazy.  However, given that you have experiences that are similar to the hallucinations that people undergoing psychotic events have I suggested, for your own well being, that you consider seeking professional assessment of your psychiatric condition.  This is not an insult, it’s meant to be helpful medical advice.

    You don’t know the difference

    This might be the case but I might know the difference.  However, it would help if you would tell me what two things I’m conflating.

    I don’t even know why you or getting so offensive.

    I haven’t been particularly offensive after my first post, and I even appologized for that and explained why it was a little snarky.

    I have a right to tell my story whether you believe it or not.

    I believe that, however, I also believe that other people have a right to say what they want to.  If you don’t want people’s comments, then why did you submit an entry?  You can’t expect everyone to say nice things about you and agree with all your positions.  Especially not here.  This is a site that is frequented by quite skeptical people.  Most of us aren’t particularly credulous, we tend to question everything, even things that have more of a foundation in reason than claiming that spirits are evident in photographs that appear to the result of cigarette smoke or dust specks.  If you want to be taken more seriously perhaps you should employ more rigorous methodology in your research.  Also perhaps you should use less questionable evidence than some inconclusive photographs.

  • deadscot

    Damn! Why does a post like this always pop-up when I’m busy watching my cat run up and down the hall for no reason?

    I have a hunch Rose may stop by and I’m curious as to why she has not seen a doctor.  Most people that I know of would be off to clinic if this type of thing began happening regardless of how strongly they felt about it.

    You can bet your bottom dollar that Pat Robertson would be in to see a professional if a glowing Satan suddenly began hanging out around his house.

    So, Rose, what’s your reasoning behind not having visited a doctor?  What do you have to fear?  If you go in and tell your story as you’ve told it to thousands of others and the doctors find nothing wrong, won’t that just add credibility to your writings?

    I’m also curious what happened in your like two-years ago that brought on this bevy of spirits.

    Oh, thank you for not voting.  I’m not sure you would have been allowed to under most state law, but thank you nonetheless.

  • Okay, I know I said I was off to bed and I am in a minute, but I couldn’t resist googling “Rose M. Wise” and guess what I found?

    http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/mt/PressReleases/200302181420.htm

    Bill Mercer, United States Attorney for the District of Montana, announced today that during a federal court session in Great Falls, on February 13, 2003, before U.S. District Magistrate Judge Carolyn B. Ostby, ROSE M. WISE pled guilty to charges of making false statements to the United States government. A sentencing date will be set.

    It appears to have something to do with social security fraud and involves a Rose Wise who would be in her upper mid 40’s. A coincidence? Probably. But amusing none the less.

    Miss Rose, are you in Montana by any chance?

  • zilch

    This seems like an appropriate place to post this.

    When someone posts something I find stupid, and I feel moved to respond, I (usually unconsciously) assign the post a position along a sliding scale of stupidity, and factor in age (if known or deducible), arrogance, originality, and probably other stuff I’m not aware of, including my mood.

    Then I decide whether to respond with a rational argument, to make fun of the post, to make fun of the person, or to empathize with him/her for obviously having problems coping.

    Of course, we all do this, and we all have different standards, which is one of those things that makes life interesting.  Sometimes it’s hard to know (probably it’s an illformed problem with no answer, even theoretically) where the line is between humor and cruelty.  I suspect they often overlap, and that cruel humor cuts to the quick, which can injure and also awaken.

    I often feel bad for hurting feelings, or at least putting people off, with my cynicism, but I wouldn’t want to give it up- it’s a useful tool, and more fun than shooting monkeys in a barrel.

  • When I see something stupid, I first make fun of the person and if they get really upset, I then become condenscendingly nice, which I find incenses them further.  Err, but I didn’t do that here, or did I?

  • Damn! Missed all the fun :(

    This was just such a fine piece of shit-stirring as I’ve ever seen. *claps*

  • brandi

    So I guess all of us who have had paranormal experiences are crazy.

    No, but none of you are correct. Some are crazy, some delusional, some scam artists, some have brain trauma, some gullible, and some are just not very bright.

    Which one are you?

    No, college is not a requirement to be intelligent. But the most basic grammer is required to not be seen as a backwater boob in the world. REALLY bad grammer does speak to the intelligence level of the writer, and yours is not saying nice things about you.

    My honest, gut feeling is that Rose is of a below-average intelligence, compounded by a lackluster life, and it was either going to be this or an alien abduction for her.

  • ingolfson

    My honest, gut feeling is that Rose is of a below-average intelligence, compounded by a lackluster life, and it was either going to be this or an alien abduction for her.

    Sheesh, isn’t there any secular, non-loopy thing for these people to get all caught up in? We really should think about providing something.

    Like those nicotine substitute band-aids, only better. And for Religions/Alien Abductions/Psychics.

  • zilch

    brandi: No, but none of you are correct. Some are crazy, some delusional, some scam artists, some have brain trauma, some gullible, and some are just not very bright.

    And some take drugs.  The closest thing I had to a paranormal experience was on propane (don’t try this yourself, it’s not worth it and possibly dangerous).  My brother and I both did it one day when we were young and wild, and had near-identical results:  we inhaled a lungful of the noxious gas and held our breath as long as we could (not easy- propane tastes just awful).  We let out our breath, and over the next minute or so had the gradually increasing feeling that we were disembodied.  We could move around, but had the strangest sense of controlling a robot.  I lifted my hand and looked at it and thought, “that’s not mine”.  This feeling ebbed over the next couple of minutes, and we were back to normal.

    Later, reading Oliver Sack’s classic “The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat”, I realized that what we had experienced seemed similar to his description of a woman who had a spinal infection and had overnight lost her sense of proprioception, the sense we all have of where our limbs are at any given moment.  Disturbing.

  • GeekMom

    To be charitable, many people believe in these things simply because they haven’t been taught to think skeptically, don’t understand the scientific method, and haven’t heard about the real explanations for these phenomena.  I wouldn’t have understood how half of the “paranormal phenomena” really occur if I hadn’t read James Randi.

  • Cindi

    You don’t have to have a college degree to be intelligent.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No, Rose, you don’t need a college degree to be intelligent, but I’m having a hard time imagining you got beyond some cracker grade school. My 6-year old nephew can frame a better argument and in two different languages.

    I’ve not laughed this hard in weeks.

  • Cindi

    My honest, gut feeling is that Rose is of a below-average intelligence, compounded by a lackluster life, and it was either going to be this or an alien abduction for her.

    Thank you, Brandi; I was trying to think of a nice way to say that this was woman is incredibly stupid, and you hit it.

    There is no nice way to say the following: Her taste in home decor is appalling.

  • Mick

    There is no nice way to say the following: Her taste in home decor is appalling.

    It’s harsh Cindi, we all know that, but it had to be said, and I respect you for being the one to say it.

  • What an enjoyable read. grin

  • Adrienne

    I research on the paranormal.  You people or afraid that maybe this is the truth.  You don’t really want to know the truth.  There’s plenty of it on the internet.  Read you might learn something.

    Then a fella named Randi would LOVE to give you some money.
    Just prove your wee little claims, and poof!

    …Les…How exactly DOES someone become a guest poster like Rose? I always had the idea that there was some kind of ‘coherance’ requirement. You are a fair man, I’ll give you that!

  • Rose M. Wise

    Hello ALL
    This is something for everyone
    You all need a little spiritualism in your life

    1 John Chapter 4 Verse 1
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit
    But test the spirits whether they or of God
    because many false prophets have gone out into
    this world.

    If God did not have a purpose for mediumship
    then it would not have been created, reading
    Colossians 1:16

    Here the is a gift from me to you all.
    The Dark and Light Side Of The City

    Is this a city of life
    and a life of the unknown

    People walking the streets
    not making a sound

    Are there spirits here no
    where to be found

    This ghostly white city
    That stands so still
    Are theses people even real

    The angry dark clouds
    hovering above
    Is there any happiness
    or any love

    Maybe this is there life
    and a life of the unknown
    But who knows they must move on

    So I must say your life never ends
    Even after death
    Your new life begins

  • brandi

    There is no nice way to say the following: Her taste in home decor is appalling.

    ..yet oddly predictable, isn’t it?

  • If God did not have a purpose for mediumship then it would not have been created, reading Colossians 1:16

      Yes, Christianity is full of tautologies.  “I am what I am.”  Oh wait, maybe that was Edie Brickell? LOL  Don’t quite follow the logic that leads to the conclusion that there must be life after death.

  • Cindi

    ..yet oddly predictable, isn’t it?

    Very predictable.  And odd. Trashy & cheap, just like her “poems.”  Love the new “poem.”  Reminds me of that Rod McKuen-type crap love-struck, impressionable teenage girls believe is the ultimate in deep thinking.

    Good taste costs nothing and can be done on a shoestring.

    Rose, if you can’t give it up, keep the poetry to yourself.  I know you say you’ve been “published,” but I’ve looked at a few of those websites and they do not cater to the type of people that are capable of or interested in analytical, educated thinking.  The people that contribute to this site appear to be a bit smarter than your average backwoods boob and your poetry doesn’t speak well of you or your abilities.

  • brandi

    Rod McKuen-type crap love-struck, impressionable teenage girls believe is the ultimate in deep thinking.

    That’s it! Couldn’t put my finger on it. I keep thinking Rose has to be 14 years old. But it appears she just never mentally grew beyond 14, which is a sad fact for many backwater-boob types, male or female. Add the righteous indignation of not knowing they are less intelligent than average, and it’s endlessly entertaining.

    As for ‘published’…well, my words are on this website, so I’m published, too! Yippee, I’m a writer!

  • Les

    Adrienne, anyone who’s a registered member can submit an entry for consideration. When you’re logged in an extra link appears in the sidebar titled “Submit an Entry” and clicking it will take you to the entry form. Whether or not it sees the light of day is based on my admittedly heavily biased and totally subjective opinion, but in general I try to consider how well it fits in with the general aim of SEB or, barring that, how likely it is to generate a good discussion. In cases such as Rose’s submission it’s based on how funny I find it to be or how much of a good “bad” example it makes.

    Rose, don’t quit the day job. I’ve seen better poetry from people who were just this side of a persistent vegetative state.

  • brandi

    But Les, she didn’t write it…the SPIRITS did. Remember?

  • [nonsequitur]  I -really- like brandi’s avatar.  really really.  [/nonsequitur]

  • deadscot

    Posted by Rose: 1 John Chapter 4 Verse 1
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit
    But test the spirits whether they or of God
    because many false prophets have gone out into
    this world.

    If God did not have a purpose for mediumship
    then it would not have been created, reading
    Colossians 1:16

    Rose, who wrote the bible that you found these is?  Was it you?  The first bit resembles I John but that particular warns True BelieversTM not to be fooled by people such as yourself.

    The second bit about mediums doesn’t exist in any bible that I’ve ever encountered.

    I would also hope that if some supernatural beings did exist, they would be able to conjure up better prose than what I’ve seen thus far.

  • Ragman

    [nonsequitur]Brandi, wasn’t your old one a headshot of the same image?

    Hate to ask this totally off topic, but my Firefox 1.0 doesn’t show gravatars and some images on some websites.  Firebird 0.7 does.  Anyone else have that problem? [/nonsequitur]

    Rose lives with a houseful of ghosts who hate having their pictures taken.  So she takes their pictures. 

    Brandi said:

    no publisher is going to come anywhere near a book

    Kinkos will.

    Rose said:

    I will say my grammar needs improving but, they do proof read it so I’m not worried about that.

    Uhh, I don’t think Kinkos proof reads.

  • Rose M. Wise

    Spirit communication took place on the Mount of
    Transfiguration appearing in LUKE 9:28, MATHEW 17,AND MARK 9:2.

    If we spirits are gods creation why should he not want us to communicate with them.

    Hasn’t god suggested that we love each other.
    Certainly that includes all of his creation.

    We also need to anaylize the words of the living.
    Each medium recieves what he gives.
    PRACTICE GODS LOVE

    The Prescence of god manisfestation is one of the most conveted experiences in Christanity

    Mediumship may be compared to a powerful weapon.
    We must know how to employ it.
    First adjust it according to the principle of divine order.
    Second improve it through service to humanity because spiritual force acts upon the law of mind and its responsive.

    Jesus is viewed as one of the greatest mediums
    that ever lived on the earth planes.

  • brandi

    Brandi, wasn’t your old one a headshot of the same image?

    Why, yes it was. Good eye. I try to be consistent. (See! You remembered me.) But hey, the whole image is always fun, in the right venue. smile That devil image of ol’ Betty just keeps seeming to personify my personality, as well as pissing off the right people, so I’m pretty consistent all over the web.

    Kinkos!!!! No Kinkos doesn’t proofread. I actually self-published a book for a woman who had some iffy topics that no publisher would touch. If you cough up 10+ grand, somebody will proof, typeset, and print anything you’ve got.

    But no publisher in the world is going to pay a red cent out of their pocket to publish Rose’s drivel. Nor will any bookstore in the world give it an inch of shelf space.

  • brandi

    Mediumship may be compared to a powerful weapon.

    Yes, Rose, you are a big powerful weapon. [/sarcasm]

    And you realize quoting biblical garbage does nothing to bolster your claim, right? It actually makes it worse.

    You seem to be under the impression that if those here just ‘knew more about it’, they’d understand. That’s your mistake. I think the majority here knows SO much about the paranormal, and so much more than you, that your gullibility is laughable in comparison. Do you not see that?

  • Rose M. Wise

    Sorry I didn’t meant to upset anyone.
    Now you see how it feels
    Your getting a taste of your own medicine
    Do you seriously think I care whether you believe it or not.
    Lets just say whats in the bible is enough for me
    For the person who said she was a writer.
    How can that be
    Do you write the way you feel?
    I hope not because if everyone else on the internet new how you talk to someone here you more than likely want get a rating and if you did it would probably be poor.
    Unless you write books about alot of evilness.
    Who knows you may be as nice as you can be on the other side.
    But that wouldn’t be honest
    But what do you care
    For all of you with this problem you have
    Do you know what it is
    I believe everyone of you have such low self esteem and it needs to be corrected.
    But don’t be upset you get what you put out.
    As far as the paranormal thing. 
    I believe in it and I’m so happy that god is with me.
    What’s your excuse
    If you don’t like my response here have your
    people not to send anymore emails and I’ll do the same.  I have better things to do with my life than to sit around and criticize people.
    I don’t see how they aloud this on the internet

    I will say one thing
    The spirutal world is wonderful it’s the people like you that you have to watch out for.
    I will say a prayer.
    Don’t even start in about my response.
    You all asked for it.

  • Rose, one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Yet here you are, again, spouting more gibberish. You’re starting to resemble a mouse in a room full of playful cats.

    Let me give you one friendly tip. Using the bible to help convince a bunch of atheists that the paranormal exists is sort of like trying to teach someone to swim while carrying an anchor on your back.

    What part of “we don’t believe in your silly god” do you not understand?

  • Sorry I didn’t meant to upset anyone.

    You’re not upsetting anyone, Rose. We find you very amusing.

    For the person who said she was a writer.
    How can that be
    Do you write the way you feel?
    I hope not because if everyone else on the internet new how you talk to someone here you more than likely want get a rating and if you did it would probably be poor.
    Unless you write books about alot of evilness.

    I’m a writer as well, Rose, and I don’t think you really understand what that means. Writing isn’t about being good or being evil, it’s about telling stories and entertaining people. Try reading Lawrence Block’s excellent guide for writers: “Telling Lies For Fun And Profit.”

    I believe everyone of you have such low self esteem and it needs to be corrected.

    Actually, quite the reverse is true. This board is just boiling over with self esteem. I myself have an ego the size of a small planet.

    As far as the paranormal thing. 
    I believe in it and I’m so happy that god is with me.
    What’s your excuse

    I don’t need an excuse, I’m right.

    I have better things to do with my life than to sit around and criticize people.

    Apparently not, you’re still here.

    Don’t even start in about my response.
    You all asked for it.

    Asked for what? Is this really supposed to be an attack? I think you need to practice your vitriol, darling.

  • Les

    Wow, as far as being a vicious attack goes, Rose’s latest reply is as weak as her poetry. Aren’t I supposed to feel insulted or hurt or something? I don’t think giggling was the response she was hoping to elicit from that last comment of hers, but that’s what she got from me.

    The best part is she doesn’t need batteries. Just wind her up and let her go!

  • brandi

    I don’t see how they aloud this on the internet

    Yet more evidence that Rose is a dim bulb. (nevermind the spelling)

    Allow what, Rose? And who is going to allow or disallow it? Who is this “they”?  There’s no Internet Hall Monitor, you boob.

    The one who said she was a writer? I think that was me. But your reading comprehension is laughable. I said “As for ‘published’…well, my words are on this website, so I’m published, too! Yippee, I’m a writer!”

    So, I’m just as ‘published’ as you are. Get it?

    Actually, I have had my writing published in real life (through funding other than my own) so I’m much farther up the legitimate scale than you. But I still don’t consider it something particularly brag-worthy.

    You obviously have no clue how the real world of publishing works. Or what it even means to “be published”.

    You couldn’t coherently string thoughts together into a book to save your life. Publisher’s garbage cans are filled to the brim with the manuscripts of people far more literate, compelling, and intelligent than you.

  • Science Goddess

    I saw a movie the other night about Iceland.  It was from the Sundance Festival.  This documentary interviewed dozens of people who claimed to have seen “elves” “invisible people” and other spiritual beings.  They claimed that being on the center of a major rift (the North Atlantic Plate is separating from the European Plate) makes the spirits more visible. 

    My question is: Rose, do you live anywhere near a major continental fault?  (Like the San Andreas, Juan de Fuca, etc?)

    SG

  • Rose wise

    The writing issue
    I’m happy for you with your writing
    You can write what you want
    That is the hole point of writing
    I’m just saying the way you are here
    Are you the same way in your personal life
    If so it needs improving
    You can be the best writer in the world and not be happy with yourself

  • I’m just saying the way you are here
    Are you the same way in your personal life
    If so it needs improving
    You can be the best writer in the world and not be happy with yourself

    Much like most of you messages, this one lacks clarity. In particular, it’s not clear who you are addressing. I’m going to let my gigantic ego have a field day and assume it was aimed at me.

    I’m quite delighted with my life and those around me and yes, I’m much the same way in real life as I am here. I do not suffer fools gladly and as such I have a much lower stress level then most people. If some one is an idiot, I tell them so.

    And you, my dear, are an idiot.

  • brandi

    Rose, what are you talking about?

    Writing is not what I do for a living. It just happens that I have had NON-fiction writing published. That doesn’t make me a writer.

    I also have notebooks full of teenage ‘deep thinking’ drivel I wrote when I was 13 that will never see the light of day. So do many people. It’s nothing to be proud of, it’s something only to be amused by…exactly like your writing. Except you seem to still be 13 and taking it very seriously.

    Although I think my teenage drivel was more elegant and compelling than your stuff. Yours sounds like the incoherent ramblings of the girl that sat behind me in class. She was not very bright. But she tried real hard and everybody told her what a good job she was doing. “Mainstreaming” is what they called it, I believe.

  • Rose needs to understand that people are not going to believe you if you just spout out a bunch of Bible Crap. The Bible is proof for nothing (well, it’s proof that he loves us if you believe he exists). Futhermore, saying stuff like “Colleges doesn’t matter” detracts from your credibility even more.

    Oh wait…OMG!!! THE SPIRITS HAVE TAKEN OVER IRELAND AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A FACE!! LOOK!!

    Guess Rose was right after all

    You can also be the worst paranormal investigator in the world and try to force your beliefs on others and guilt them into following you by telling them they are cruel and still not be happy.

  • brandi,

    There’s no Internet Hall Monitor, you boob.

    I laughed so hard I have crackers and cheez whiz stuck in my pharynx now….  If I didn’t enjoy that line so much I would be upset….  Now how am I going to get that cheez whiz out….

     

    Rose,

    I’ve reconsidered my earlier view that you might be mentally ill.  Now I’m just pretty sure that you’re really dumb, and creduluous to a fault.  I bet you’ve helped the Mariam Sese-Seko move her money out of Nigeria haven’t you?  I do have one piece of advice for you.  You should think before you say something, then you should think about it again, after you do that you should probably not say anything because you’re still probably going to say something that people will make fun of.

  • You still haven’t told us if you’re from Montana or not…
    Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Ragman

    Brandi said: (See! You remembered me.)

    Hadn’t seen you post in a while.  Glad you’re back.

    Brandi said: And you realize quoting biblical garbage does nothing to bolster your claim, right? It actually makes it worse.

    Rose, ask Gabriel how well bible quoting works around here.  At least she hasn’t posted under a different screen name trying to bolster her claims. 

    Rose: I have better things to do with my life than to sit around and criticize people.

    Like pissing off ghosts by photographing them?  Maybe that bad poetry you’re channeling is their way of getting back at you for the photos.

    I don’t see how they aloud this on the internet

    First Amendment. And nobody is forcing you to come to this site.  Unless one of your ghosts has possessed you.  Has that ever happened?  Is that the reason for the legal dust-up in Montana?  You can’t claim ghosts as dependents, you know.

  • Rose M. Wise

    Can you download pictures here?
    I have a very interesting picture to show you all.
    It’s the best one yet
    I would love to know what you all think about it.

  • I would love to know what you all think about it.

    You rode the special bus to school, didn’t you?

  • Rose – Just what is this picture of that you’re so sure will have an impact on our lives and why haven’t you submitted it with the others?

    I also wish you’d begin answering some of the multitude of questions that have posted.

    If you really want your picture to be seen here I suggest you email it to Les or go over to a free picture host, like Image Motel, and link back to it.

  • I am cancelling cable tomorrow morning…
    This here is first class comedy.

    Rose, I’m with you.

  • NEIN NEIN NEIN!! Antworten Sie der Questions!! Ve have vays of making you talk, you know. If you vill not talk, ve vill FORCE YOU! Now, vere you the same Rose from Montana? ANSWER THE QUESTION!!! Bitte Antworten Sie JA oder NEIN!!

    Can you download pictures here?
    I have a very interesting picture to show you all.
    It’s the best one yet
    I would love to know what you all think about it.

    SHUT UP AND ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

  • This thread’s a riot!

    Rose, try out ImageShack to store your images then read these tips…

  • brandi

    Oh, Spocko…do you really think she’s going to be able to get images uploaded and linked? I was thinking just emailing them to somebody was going to be a struggle.

    But who here wouldn’t just LOVE to see them?

    If it’s not more dust or smoke, what could it be? A long exposure maybe? Reflected light? Inquiring minds…

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