In addition to magnetic bracelets and shoe inserts to aid in healing and electrocution belts for weight loss, consumers looking to waste money on products with dubious medical claims can now blow their earnings on a watch that claims to protect your body from “electronic pollution” in the form of magnetic fields.
Wired News: A Watch Powered by Snake Oil
The Philip Stein Teslar watch contains a chip that works with the battery and coil to create a frequency that neutralizes the electromagnetic fields emanating from devices like cell phones, computers and radios, according to the company.
Research links electromagnetic fields with several health problems like headache, fatigue and memory loss, the company said. Those who wear the quartz watch allegedly sleep better, experience less stress and have improved concentration and more energy, it claims.
“It shields the body from these electromagnetic fields, and then the body can be more effective in taking care of itself and its immune system with those unwanted fields thrown off,” explained Ilonka Harezi, head of research for Teslar Inside, which manufactures the watch. “With us sticking cell phones to our heads, we need that protection,” Harezi said.
But others say the company’s claims are a bunch of bunk.
“There is not a chance in the world that (these types of devices) will do anything but lighten your wallet,” said John Moulder, a professor of radiation oncology at the Medical College of Wisconsin, who said he’s seen a slew of products that claim to do the same thing, including radio-frequency-proof lingerie.
Despite there being absolutely no scientific evidence that magnetic fields have any discernible effect on the body, and that’s something that has been studied extensively, the watches are being sold at such upscale stores as Bloomingdale’s New York and Royal Jewelers in Massachusetts for prices starting at $600 and going up to $2000 for one covered in diamonds. Needless to say, the watches are a hit among various celebrities and athletes and the clueless in general.
That’s it. I’m tired of being the only one who’s not making tons of money off of peoples’ stupidity and gullibility. I’m going to develop my own highly over-priced craptastic product with dubious medical claims that you don’t really need and start selling it to clueless idiots so I can be rich too. Perhaps it’s time I follow through on developing a patented Anti-Alien Anal Probe Ass Shield for people suffering from occasional alien anal probe syndrome. There certainly seems be enough of those people around judging from all the news items I read about it.
Link via Boing Boing.
FedUp- I’ll jump in before some of the other regulars give you a kicking- this is the SOFT reply.
What evidence do you have- how have you tried to measure it?
Have you tried a blind test- where you wear something without knowing if it is the watch or not? Does it happen if it is in a pocket? What about if you don’t have it on (a substitute) but believe you do, or vice versa?
Maybe he gets dizzy when he puts the watch on because he’s reminded of how much money he wasted on it…
I too bought a Teslar watch in 2006 while on a cruise. It worked miracles with my Fibromyalgia, my blood pressure went down, I no longer suffered with motion sickness. Don’t know how it worked. But…….I only wore it when I was in a safe environment and it was in my jewelry box most of the time. That meant I wore it about 12 out of 36 months. When I went to wear it it wasn’t working. After much calling and finally getting on-line I found that there were only 2 stores where I could take it to get it fixed. One was 25 miles away and required a toll fee of $6.00 to bring it there and then another %6. to get it after being fixed. The other was 40 miles away where I finally took it. I was told the batteries would cost $45.00. I said OK because I wanted to use the watch. After 2 weeks I was told that the Teslar chips needed to be replaced and only Philip Stein could do that. The jewelry store sent it there and after 2 more weeks I received a call telling me the chips cost almost as much as the watch. I couldn’t believe it. I don’t have that kind of money. Now the watch sits permanently in the bottom of my jewelry case as a reminder to myself about my foolishness. Yes, a very expensive watch just sitting there because I can’t afford the chips to get it running again. Now that’s the rip-off. Thanks, Mrs Bongiorno
Holy smoke,
An entire website devoted to the closed minded ramblings of some self important inbreeds.
Wow.
Don’t understand something? No problem. Dismiss it.
Don’t agree with something? No problem. Ignore it.
Some one disagree with you? Flame them.
Ludites.
Closed minded? No, man, not really. Some of us even try not to walk the line of being so open minded that our brains fall out. This is one of those areas we can all agree on: open-mindedness offers us little when it comes to this watch. It’s a cow-patty wrist accessory.
It has just struck me. Those who look at science are called close minded by those who follow religeon, ‘alternative therapy’ snake oil, and pseudo-science. Yet when solid evidence contradicting our belief is put in front of us, which community is more likely to change it’s position?
The secret word here is proof. Repeatable, testable proof is all that we are asking here. Not how your grandma loves it, not how you feel about it. If you people just would present some scientific evidence in a while, things would be better. Instead all you can bring to the table are sophist arguments and side shows. Just for once I wish I didn’t have to do all the research. Asymmetrical Maxwell equations don’t work, period. Don’t like it, refute me. I dare you.
Jimmy: what Pat, Huss, and Psych said. In addition, the Luddites were right, on their own terms: the introduction of mechanical looms did indeed spell the loss of jobs for many weavers. Whether that was a bad or a good thing is another matter. In any case, as far as the Teslar watch is concerned, the analogy flops: mechanical looms do what is claimed for them; the Teslar watch does not.
In my experience here at SEB, there’s relatively little flaming, and most of that comes from outsiders. The regulars here are usually pretty polite, except when it comes to obvious greed-motivated lying, such as the subject of this thread. The perps of the Teslar watch are hucksters, and deserve to be exposed as such, so there is no point in mincing words.
Hold on- who’s responsibility is it to prove/disprove? Have asymmetrical Maxwell equations already been shown not to work? (All I can remember from 20 years ago is something about left and right hands as ahandy way of remembering the forces).
No! I remember being told in the 70’s that computers would mean shorter working weeks for everybody. Say it aint so, Joe!
I see the trolls have been active in this thread.
Have any of you closet scientists actually requested information from Philip Stein before? Better yet, what about from TESLAR, considering they are not the same company. Teslar Tech manufactures the TESLAR chip, Philip Stein makes the watches. Philip Stein doesn’t even use TESLAR any more in new watches.
I give in Katscan, are you for or against the watches?
By the way, you can buy a watch with the chip for less than $200. Put it on ebay, get your money back. Put your energy into less complaining! The palcebo effect works in reverse as well. Even if it helps you and you don’t beleive it, it won’t. The placebo effect is porven science by the way factoed into all drug testing.
What, exactly, is your point, Peter? Almost nothing you said in your comment makes any sense at all.
Ok, the teslar name drew me to this product I’ve looked through alot of the threads, I think I got up to about the half way mark and noticed that noone had really read their claims of how it supposedly worked.
From their description it acts as a booster to your system attempting to send a natural ELF through the meridian in the wrist, which to be effectual it would have to have the effects of a repeater on a network in making the signal more apparent else this frequency is quite the natural state of a relaxed focused person and these frequencies are natural earth resonance which begs the question of if the earth is not powerful enough a mechanism for you to take notice why is this watch? Perhaps proximity to the core as opposed to the watch’s direct contact and the talked of interferance.
You could understand this having a beneficial effect by tuning the body to relieve unatural conditions normalize and strengthen the bodies own natural vitality and regulatory function as it should be known that a singularly focused relaxed state of being is congruent with the given frequency as where it is common a multiple talk concerned and frantic individual will be operating at a higher and more stressful rate which compounded over time is well known to cause problems.
Which would appear was the description of what it did and these blocking claims stem from someone elses assumption that the watch does the work directly coming between other devices by itself. Perhaps the effects of a healthier revitalized system would boost a persons own field and if it then synergistically worked with the bodies field to block these other waves however what the description reads to me is that it’s intention is primarily returning the body to a better regulated state the body does produce this frequency and the more likely thing is that it simply positively boosts this field so as damaging EMF’s effects are lessened due to a natural shield being radiated and an overall healthier system.
It’s ability to act as a tuning fork to the body is questionable without documentation to support it apart from a mobile phone HRV example and some sporting testamonials with no independent studies to visit, it becomes a question of price and risk taking as the customer.
It does atleast rely on more conventional ideas then other devices with such claims.
They claim to use tesla’s name out of respect to his own research into the effects of EMF.
I think I’ll get one if I can find something legit and cheap as it would be beneficial to have this frequency more prominent, seems the more expensive from what I’ve read here the worse quality.
Josh writes…
I’ve read their claims numerous times. Not surprisingly they’ve changed their claims numerous times since I first wrote about them back in 2003.
First allow me to put in some paragraph breaks so we can actually read what you’ve written. Not that it’ll make it anymore coherent, but at least we can see it properly.
Did you read any of what you just wrote? That was an amazing bit of nonsense.
In short what you appear to be claiming is that the watch somehow “tunes” the body’s own electromagnetic field in a way that’s beneficial to health. You provide nothing to explain how that might actually be possible or how an ELF is good for you when EMF is supposedly harmful to you.
It becomes a question of how big of a dumbass you are that you fall for science-y sounding words that don’t mean a damned thing. You can buy watches that are just as effective as the Tesla watches—that is to say both will tell you the current time and both won’t do a damned thing to make you healthier—for $20 at Walmart.
No it doesn’t. There’s nothing conventional about that bullshit you put up there.
They use his name because it gives their craptastic product an air of legitimacy and most people don’t really know what the hell Tesla did other than the wild stories they’ve heard.
Your not actually skeptical are you.
If you are unable to find the next line of a piece of text that is unfortunate…
There we go two enter key presses, epic.
I am not attempting to write in perfect syntax for some remedial bumpkin to read in some newspaper, I’m simply writing on some site I just came across.
I’m not presenting any evidence I’m describing what they are claiming.
I’m attempting to make sense of how it would operate, as I was trying to reply to several things I’ve seen here at once I extended what I was describibg.
I wasn’t attempting to describe why, but anyway.
The body is a bio-electric sensory system and electrical impulses give rise to thoughts and emotions and govern moods and in turn physical states, actively entraining a calm frequency when your system is capable of varying states, introduces a healthy guideline to the system and so encourages that mental and emotional state as well as perhaps amplifying and stabilizing the relaxed natural focused state once it becomes more prominant.
Understand I am not saying this is what the device is doing.
Harmful EMF’s of the harsh kind ofcourse are damaging, sunburn and what not.
Ones however of the ELF variety are ones that encourage unhealthy states of mind by entraining a given frequency promoting higher frequency of mental activity making for not only more stress but diminishing perceptive capacity due to the limits of input one can process and so less focused comprehension, over a long enough time line the emotions these unhealthy states produce can lead to worse health problems.
Just in case you weren’t aware stress is bad for ones health… You can connect more dots as to how the stressed body reacts.
I’m not endorsing the product or showing proof or saying what they say is even happening or anything.
How often your going to say the same thing and present nothing is kinda pointless.
What’s conventional is relative to the other products out there as this actually has a battery energy source working through a watch, it’s much more useful then say the tesla shield which is something you attatch to a pet collar incase it gets lost marketed as a cure all personal radiation shield.
Josh comes back for more…
Actually, yes, I am a skeptic.
If you don’t care enough to make your comments legible then why bother writing them down at all?
We know what they are claiming. We don’t really need someone who can’t be bothered to take the time to type clearly to try and explain to us what the claims are.
And your basis for the multiple claims made in that statement is… what exactly?
Yes, I’m aware that stress can be detrimental to your health. Though I find the above long-winded buzzword filled description to be very amusing indeed.
It attempted to offer a bullshit explanation for how the product might accomplish the claims of the manufacturer. True as it is that you’re not offering proof or endorsing the product directly, you are attempting to introduce a plausible sounding story as to how it might possibly work without providing anything to back said story up.
In other words, you’re functioning as a shill for the product and, while I have no proof that this is the case, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you were involved in the promotion of such products. We get a lot of folks who have a vested interest in promoting this sort of nonsense showing up here and attempting to rationalize a means for the product to maintain some form of legitimacy which it doesn’t deserve.
It has a battery therefore it’s more conventional? Since when does tossing a battery into something suddenly make it legit? So if I tossed a battery into a pile of shit before trying to sell it to you you’d think that was more conventional than just a plain old pile of shit?
But Les, the Teslar is a pile of shit that tells time. Not just any pile of shit can tell you the time, even if you toss a battery into it, now can it?
Why am I thinking of homeopathy all of a sudden? Toss a battery into a pile of shit, put it in a sack of batteries, and shake it eleven times. Lather, rinse (really!), repeat.
Wow you are a wanker.
no you really aren’t a skeptic as you don’t maintain doubt, you make baseless decisions and are definitive in your belief.
That you feel what your doing is making plausible arguments is a joke, you don’t even attempt to visit what’s being said you are far too dense.
You are a nutter that thinks anyone that comes here with a neutral point of view is somehow affiliated with promoting the product.
So yes you are close minded and boring.
Strangely for illegible text you managed to read it yet you proceed to be a pathetic, sad, busy body about it.
Just because you don’t understand someones expression doesn’t mean they should not express it.
Here is what I mentioned before
The shield http://www.lifetechnology.org/teslashield.htm
and a budget version
http://www.rei.com/product/685309
Good Day
Josh, there’s a name for the “science” behind those claims: woo. There is no evidence that the Teslar watch does anything other than tell time- or do you have some? Keep in mind: the plural of “anecdote” is not “data”.
And given that you’ve posted two links that are just ads for woo, there’s a name for you too, as Les said: a shill.
What Zilch just said. Simply because I’ve already taken a position on a topic that we’ve been discussing off and on since 2003—that’s five years ago in case you’re as bad at math as you are at science—doesn’t mean I’m not a skeptic.
I’m more than willing to entertain any rational explanation someone can provide for how this craptastic product supposedly works, but all you’ve offered so far is a lot of hand waving pseudo-science buzzwords that have no basis in reality and when pressed to explain how that’s supposed to fit what we know about physics and physiology you throw up the “I’m not saying this is proof or that the product works” defense.
That’s classic woo woo nutcase technique and it gives me every reason to conclude that you count among their number.
I found myself drawn to your post from some dubious things in the hi-fi world. There is a company (Acoustic Revive) that sells a plug in Schumann resonator for $425 that supposedly makes your hi-fi sound better.
My thought was that this thing is meant to be generating a 7.6 someodd Hz soundwave and it’s bleedin’ tiny! Think about speakers and amplifiers and think of what size of each you’d need to put out a reasonable 7Hz. We’re supposed to be convincingly replicating the frequency of the earth here using a watch battery as power.
Hmm.
Anyone with $425 to spend on something like this probably has a stereo system with at least two thousand watts output RMS. They should just make sure they aren’t standing too close to the speakers when they fire it up: if I remember correctly, eight Hz soundwaves of sufficient intensity can cause your organs to bounce around with enough force to cause internal damage.
Hi, ok, in i was born in 1983, yet i got hold of an American radio show called open minds, this was a taped recording from 1987.
During one of these shows, the presenter, Bill Jenkins held a seminar, or a meeting as we say in England!, and basically, this Bill Jenkins was handing out electronic Schematics to actually build one of these things yourself, does anyone here have any idea on how i can find one?
I would have thought that some of the scientists that worked on this in the late 80s would have posted at least something like this since the net started up., i have searched google but i know that the google search results are censored, try searching for English riots!!- you get absolutely nothing!!!
Please if anyone has one of these schematics, would you please email me at…
Fantomcat_2k @ Yahoo.co.uk Thanks, Steve
You funny little man. You actually mention “Quackwatch” like it’s a legitimate source of information. You would be wise to not go up against me on anything related to natural medicine/ natural healing. You would be way out of your league. Here’s a letter I sent “Quackwatch” a couple months ago:
“Do you want to talk about fraud? How about the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry. Last year, in 2007, approximately 110,000 people died as a result of taking “properly” prescribed and administered prescription pharmaceuticals. That is over *ten times* the estimated deaths from illegal drug use last year. It is undeniable that if you factor in the deaths caused by doctors “mistakes” unrelated to pharmaceuticals along with “mistakes” in prescribing and administering pharmaceuticals the numbers jump drastically. I can assure you that problems arising in the field of natural medicine/ natural healing come nowhere close to these figures, which brings up the real question- who is watching the “quackwatch” quack?”
There are no negative effects from EMF radiation? You seriously believe that? what color is the sky in your world? While there may be only a handful of people who exhibit symptoms that can be easily verified as resulting from EMF radiation, that doesn’t mean that the rest of the population is “magically invincible” to the effects. Here’s one of the more obvious cases:
The Woman Who is Allergic to Modern Technology
Debbie Bird is allergic to cell phones and microwaves. The 39-year-old is so sensitive to the electromagnetic fields generated by computers, mobile phones, and microwave ovens that she develops a painful skin rash and her eyelids swell to three times their size if she goes near them. Mrs. Bird, a health spa manager, has transformed her home into an EMF-free zone to try and stay healthy.
Oooh, an Internet tough guy. Sadly, he’s not nearly as entertaining as the late E(d).E. Smith.
Bring it on, Ed Smith. For starters I’d love to hear why you think I should take your word over the word of the folks at QuackWatch seeing as you’re just some random yahoo who dropped in out of the blue.
Thanks, I kind of needed a laugh.
Ed- Yes: Big Pharma certainly deserves more critical scrutiny, and I’m willing to believe that far more people die from the direct effects of licit drugs than illicit, or alternative, substances. That, however, says nothing about whether alternative medicine has any beneficial effects at all, aside from the placebo effect.
Sure, some traditional remedies have proven their worth. Onions and garlic have antibacterial effects, for instance. But others are apparently worthless: homeopathic medicine, for instance, has never shown any benefits in double-blind tests, and the theory behind it is just silly.
And while the effects of low-level EMF are still debated, there’s no question whatsoever that the Teslar watch can have no effect on EMF, unless it works magically. It’s just a scam to fleece the gullible.
Since I have not looked into the Teslar watch claims, at this point I am unable say anything in regards to the claims made by the maker of the watch, but if someone is receiving benefits as a result of the placebo effect because of their belief in this watch, that only serves to illustrate that the mind is often a more powerful healing agent than “modern medicine” and if that means not being subjected to the bizarre and often times(though not 100% of the time) harmful concoctions conjured up by the shady pharmaceutical industry and approved by the crooks at the FDA, that is all the better. On the assumption that the watch does not accomplish the claims made by the manufacturer, if some people need this watch as a tool to access the mind’s ability to remedy problems they are experiencing, then I would say that the watch has done it’s job. Also, only a fool would give any credence to the “Quackwatch” loonies. Save it for the gullible.
We did. God only knows why.
Of course you should take “Quackwatch” as a more legitimate source of information, because not just anyone can start up a website and play “propaganda spreading guardian of the masses”. Their info is true and reliable because you want it to be.
The effects of EMF on the body:
By 1990, over one hundred studies had been conducted worldwide. Of these, at least two dozen epidemiological studies on humans indicated a link between EMFs and serious health problems. In response to public pressure, the Environmental Protection Agency IEPA) began reviewing and evaluating the available literature.
In a draft report issued in March 1990, the EPA recommended that EMFs be classified as a Class B carcinogen—-a “probable human carcinogen and joined the ranks of formaldehyde, DDT, dioxins and PCBs.
After the EPA draft report was released, utility, military and computer lobbyists came down hard on the EPA. The EPA’s final revision did NOT classify EMFs as a Class B carcinogen Rather, the following explanation was added:”
At this time such a characterization regarding the link between cancer and exposure to EMFs is not appropriate because the basic nature of the interaction between EMFs and biological processes leading to cancer is not understood.”
Curiously, this rather unusual logic appears on the same page as the following: “In conclusion, several studies showing leukemia, Iymphoma and cancer of the nervous system in children exposed to supported by similar findings in adults in several/ occupational studies also involving electrical power frequency exposures, show a consistent pattern of response that suggest a causal link. “
When questioned about the contradictory nature of these statements, the EPA responded that it was “not appropriate” to use the probable carcinogen label until it could demonstrate how EMFs caused cancer and exactly how much EMF is harmful.
This explanation does not satisfy many critics who claim that the EPAs upper management was influenced by political and economic considerations exerted by utility, computer and military lobbyists.
Named after Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current and ‘father’ of the scalar non-Hertzian technology it employs, the Teslar Watch produces a scalar wave that has been shown to screen other ELF signals, while radiating it’s own 8-Hz signal similar to the earth’s natural resonance of 7-9 Hz, thus enabling the body to operate within it’s own natural frequency range. It was developed by researchers at ELF International, who also created the Light Beam Generator.
According to renowned researcher of the human bioenergy field Valerie Hunt, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus at U.C.L.A., scalar energy is created when two identical frequencies meet head on from opposite directions, canceling each other out to leave a stationary energy. “Currently, energy instruments only measure frequencies and wavelengths, not stationary energy,” says Dr. Hunt, explaining why scalar energy is not widely discussed by most scientists. “However, studies at the Max Planck Institute showed that the scalar wave, like that created by the Teslar Watch, caused the unclumping of lymph and blood cells. Then the smooth flowing circulatory systems brought nutrients to cells and tissues, and removed chemical and cellular wastes, resulting in improved healing and immune capacity.”
The magnetic chip that drives the watch creates the scalar energy, and its active protection is superior to the various stones, metals and magnets that many people wear. Dr. Hunt further notes that the 8-Hz cycle wave produced and maintained by the Teslar Watch “constitutes the most important frequency milieu for living tissues to remain functional and to communicate from DNA to genes to tissues, cells, organs, and systems.” When worn over the left wrist, the scalar vibrations produced by the Teslar Watch are in direct contact with the acu-points that accupuncturists refer to as the meridian system of the entire body. Dr. Hunt’s research has found that the scalar module also creates a protective cocoon, offering maximum protection from absorbing and transmitting destructive EMFs into the body.
Additional research on the Teslar Watch conducted by Dr. Scott-Morley confirms that it eliminates electromagnetic fields from those who wear it. A study of five cell cultures conducted by Glen Rein, Ph.D., at Stanford University Medical Center, showed that the Teslar Watch not only eliminated harmful ELF fields, but actually resulted in a 76%-134% increase in immune response. Additional testing by Dr. Rein also revealed that the Teslar’s screening capability created an environment that increased basic biochemical communication between nerve cells, mediated by neurotransmitters. Uptake of the hormone noradrenaline (increases blood pressure) into the nerve cells was inhibited by 19.5%, which may explain the antidepressant effects reported by many wearers of the watch. Other studies now underway indicate the Teslar Watch is capable of improving athletic performance by as much as 20%, as well as enhancing the circulation of energy throughout the body.
Consider yourself educated.
Ed Smith seems to be incapable of getting all his thoughts out in a single comment. That’s a strike against his credibility right there.
Based on what you’ve posted so far that would be you, Ed.
I already do, but not from any of the nonsense you just spewed.
Believe me, I do, Ed. Unlike some people, I was paying attention in high school physics, and I remember something about electromagnetic radiation: namely, that it cannot be “screened”. It can indeed be blocked: a big chunk of lead between you and a source of radiation will protect you. It can even be canceled, if you position a radiation source of the same frequency but opposite polarity in the right position. But the Teslar watch is neither a big chunk of lead around your head, nor is it a source of waves controlled by a computer which measures the incoming wavelength and the (continually changing) distance of the watch from your head, and then generates waves of the same amplitude but opposite polarity. If the Teslar watch really worked, there would be oodles of military applications, and probably a Nobel prize for the inventors. I wonder why there isn’t.
Thus, the Teslar watch cannot protect you from radiation. All of the nice stuff you quote about the Teslar watch is woo-science ad copy. Consider yourself educated.
Because ANYBODY should take YOUR word OR a high school “teacher” over the word of Valerie Hunt, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus at U.C.L.A. along with the other Doctors I mention above. Also, do a little research into who puts together high school text books. For such a skeptic, you are incredibly gullible.
Run along Jr.
Dr. Valerie Hunt is internationally recognized for her pioneering research of human energy fields. Holding advanced degrees in psychology and physiological science from Columbia University, Dr. Hunt has been a professor at Columbia University, the University of Iowa, and the University of California at Los Angeles. The first to discover vibration patterns during pain, disease, and illness, and in emotional and spiritual states, Dr. Hunt has found scientific evidence of individualized field signatures and subtle energetic happenings between people and within groups.
She is pretty accomplished for someone who supposedly “makes up” things to dupe people.
“Ed Smith seems to be incapable of getting all his thoughts out in a single comment. That’s a strike against his credibility right there.”
The fact that you claim my credibility is compromised because I posted multiple comments within a few minutes of each other is a pretty damn good indicator that your credibility is shot.
“Unlike some people, I was paying attention in high school physics”
Sure, because there are never any NEW findings that alter previously established scientific views. Don’t waste your time trying to using your 1950’s high school physics class as a defense for your claims.
Woo woo woo! Argument from (alleged) authority! Woooooo!
By the way, do the names Pons and Fleischmann ring a bell?
Ed, still suffering from diarrhea of the brain, attempts to get everything out in a single comment and fails again. He writes…
Just because someone has a Ph.D. doesn’t mean their claims are beyond dispute. Especially when those claims fly in the face of established science. There are plenty of highly educated people who buy into woo-woo concepts and Valerie Hunt wouldn’t be the first. There’s at least one microbiologist who thinks Evolution is false despite it being the cornerstone of the science he supposedly practices. So you’ve found one retired professor who supports your beliefs, that doesn’t mean she’s right.
I’ve read her book Infinite Mind: Science of the Human Vibrations of Consciousness
and wasn’t all that impressed by the claims made. She’s very much like Deepak Chopra and his woo-woo nonsense. It’s quite convenient that the magical apparatus she’s designed to detect the phenomena she’s describing is too technically advanced for anyone other than her to operate. Puts a kink in that whole “reproducible by others” aspect of a proper experiment.
Good to see you can cut and paste her official bio. And no one said she was just making shit up to dupe people. She may very well believe the nonsense she’s putting out there. It’s the Teslar people who are making shit up to dupe people and using people like Valerie Hunt to justify it.
Wow. Must have taken you hours to come up with that witty rejoinder.
Why not? You’re using 1970’s research by a retired professor to defend yours.
“By the way, do the names Pons and Fleischmann ring a bell?”
As a matter of fact they do. Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons claimed to have successfully created cold fusion. Most people lost interest when the alleged results were not duplicated. There are still quite a few scientists researching this to varying degrees, carrying out jury-rigged experiments in garages and basements, and one or two more conventional institutions still have an interest. Although governments such as those of the US and Japan have officially pulled out, the cold-fusion faithful say that several government agencies are still giving money to the field, including the US Department of Defense. And the Italian and French governments are still supporting research in a small number of labs, according to one cold-fusion insider. I have done considerable reading on quantum physics. Does the name Fred Alan Wolf ring a bell? His work makes sense.
Ed returns with…
Yes, his name rings a bell. He’s been featured in such woo-woo productions as The Secret (which is just laughable) and What the #$*! Do We Know!? which was just more of the same silliness. He’s a favorite of anyone wanting to tie their woo-woo to quantum mechanics to give it an air of legitimacy.
Some “scientists” are not willing to let go of their established views on how things are. Take, for example, the findings mentioned in the book Forbidden Archaeology. These findings call into question a good amount of what is considered to be “established science”. But then, I’m sure you could come up with a perfectly reasonable “mainstream” explanation as to why and object that could only have been formed by the hand of modern man would be embedded in a chunk of coal. Either that or you’ll simply claim they made it up. Sorry, but that is just not the case. Sorry to burst your security bubble.
In case you’ve been living in a cave for the past 100 years, quantum physics does, in fact, correspond to the ideas mentioned in The Secret. Quantum physics also corresponds surprisingly well to views in some ancient eastern “religion” and philosophy. If you can’t see that then you are blinded by your inability to accept anything that contradicts your scientific dogma.
You seem to have a very poor understanding of the implications of the current findings in the field of quantum physics. You’re probably one of those kooks that believe in “man-made” global warming, an idea that has plenty of “evidence”, all of which can and has been easily discredited.
Either you are just to ignorant to see how absurd your argument is(which I suppose is understandable, there are many ignorant people) or you are just arguing for the sake of your own personal amusement or to provoke people to comment on your blog. In either case, I don’t have time for you, as I am currently working on my Master’s degree.